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Posted by kaz_me, 09:16 19 November 2007

Hi everyone!! I was just wondering, does anyone have any cheap ways of combatting SAD? I would love to get a light therapy product but just don't have the money... I figure there's gotta be other ways! Thanks all! :)
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Posted by Me, 12:51 19 November 2007

I swear by exercise Kaz, if you can get your head (and body) round it!

The lightbox keeps me awake
Exercise lifts my mood
Tablets help the depression (should it get that bad)
Else,St Johns wort is supposed to help if you are down.
If you havent got a lightbox you will need more sleep to keep the mood level - grab it.
A good diet making sure you have vitamins and minerals.
Lots of support from family and friends and here!
A good sleep routine will minimise the tendancy to sleep and lie awake at the wrong times.
Other people enjoy music or even aromatherapy.
Buy a lightbox on EBAY

It is really quite an individual thing.

I find that even thinking about some of the above is quite hard without my lightbox though. It allows me to do all the things that my body previously tells me is shouldnt be doing.

Me x
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Posted by kaz_me, 12:53 19 November 2007

Thanks very much Me! Am new to the site, it's such a great place to speak to people who actually know what it's like!! :) Am having a fairly good dy today actually though the weather isn't helping the tiredness much!!
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Posted by Me, 12:59 19 November 2007

Ive been good too.

changed the bulbs on my lightbox and am fully charged now -if a little dazed!

Been to yoga this morning. Took it up when i was bad a few weeks ago. Am beginning to like it. My boys say that my boobs have grown, although they concluded that perhaps my back must be straighter - ohhhhhh. Didnt even fall asleep during the relaxation either - good eh.

Do you do exercise?

Me x

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Posted by kaz_me, 13:49 19 November 2007

Lol yup all good!!
I attempt to go to the gym but its just so much of an effort!! Lol and thats on a good day!!
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Posted by paulst, 16:17 19 November 2007

Lots of exercise when feel ok,even if its a bit dull outdoors.I try and get out everytime the sunshines, sadly its not very often at this time of year.
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Posted by Me, 21:18 19 November 2007

If only we could get a lightbox on NHS eh. Im sure some, not all, people would then feel more capable of helping themselves cope better.

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Posted by Linda, 21:20 19 November 2007

Light box -- too much money
Gym -- too much effort

Forgive me for being blunt, but health is achieved through making an effort. Many here have scraped the money together to get a light box because they know it is the way they will see the winter through with SAD. It is criminal that they cost so much but can you really put a price on your health? Exercise is hard too when you are tired and depressed, I know it well myself, but you will reap the rewards just from something like a brisk walk in the sun.

I don't know what else to suggest. The "easy" way would be to take pills. It's the last thing I'd suggest to anyone but it's what people tend to do when they are after a magic bullet.

If your health is precious to you then you might ask yourself what you are willing to invest to safeguard it.
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 21:32 19 November 2007

I think you are being a trifle harsh Linda. Not everyone has the £130+ to purchase a lightbox, certainly not 'just like that'.
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Posted by kaz_me, 22:05 19 November 2007

Thanks PurpleIvy... I wasn't trying to say I'm not willing to make an effort, just that I don't have the money to buy a lightbox straight off. Also, I was just trying to keep the excersise thing a wee bit light hearted. Apologies if it didn't come off like that...
Thanks for the comments tho!!
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Posted by Faerie9, 22:26 19 November 2007

When you're feeling low, it's so very difficult to do all the things we know we should be doing, like exercise etc.

I think what people need to find is something - be it a lightbox, or drugs, or diet, or a combination, to give them that boost, to be able to feel good enough to put energy into living healthily.

If you can't afford a light box right now, then start saving, and in the mean time, try and find something else to give you a boost. Even something as basic as drinking enough water (2litres a day) can make such a difference. Then once you can afford your light box, it should make things even better. The trick is to find what combination of things work for you.
Best of luck!
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Posted by paulst, 22:40 19 November 2007

I agree, lightboxes are expensive, it took me months to get mine, but well worth it in the end. Even exercise is difficult at this time of year, we can only do our best, sometimes I dont take as much exercise as I should, but dont worry because there is always tomorrow.
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Posted by Me, 23:06 19 November 2007

You know, I agree with absolutely everyone, even my own message.

If I may repeat my age ole quote:-

'The days when you can not be bothered to do exercise are the days when you get more benefit out of it.'
There, done it. Promise not to mention it again - honest (fingers crossed).

You know, Im sure im going loopy today!

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Posted by sandyb, 23:32 19 November 2007

ME-I'm sure you're not going loopy!!!! Or not any loopier than the rest of us!

Kaz-me - do you live in the uk? I was just at an NHS therapist and he told me that they've just started to loan out lightboxes in their practice. Maybe you could ask at your GP's to see if they've got some there?

Exercise definitely makes me feel better, especially walking in the sun and swimming. There are some days, though, that I can hardly get out of my bed so unfortunately can't manage to get out as much as I should, but like Paulst, I try not to worry too much about that.

sandy x
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Posted by Amalthea, 01:08 20 November 2007

It is tough to get a lightbox. I got my first one on eBay for $100. It was invaluable, though. It hasn't cured my SAD by any means, but I bought the lightbox out of desperation when I was literally barely making it home from work... I'd cry on my way home from work because the walk from the trolley stop took SO... MUCH... EFFORT.

I'd get home, collapse into bed and sleep for 10 hours (at least) and then do it all again the next day. The lightbox helped me start living again.

Exercise is a huge help, too, but I was at the point that I fell into bed every day...
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Posted by Suzie, 08:17 20 November 2007

It's nearly Christmas guys. Maybe you could ask for a contribution towards a light box.

I have asked for contributions towards a bike so that I can get out and about and everyone has been very co-operative.

Kaz you have no need to apologise, we all try to keep things a little light hearted on here, all be it exercise, eating the wrong things, etc, etc. It's what keeps us going and keeps our spirits up. We all know what we should do and what we shouldn't do but to have a giggle about it is all part of the support. It doesn't mean we don't take our health conditions seriously.

May I just add......

The easy way out isn't to take the pills, it's actually the hardest
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Posted by Piglet, 08:38 20 November 2007

OK my thoughts, you do have to actually DO something about wanting to be better. We all know when we are down it's easy to sit around and mope.

Light boxes are expensive, I had to buy a light and a visor in the first year (when OH was unemployed) and I probably paid for them twice over on the credit card but once I'd tried one on trial there was no way I was giving it back!

Have you looked at the payments schemes on the Lumie site? There is a trial option and when I bought you could pay over a couple of months (interest free I think). If you haven't done that then get on an do it. That's what I mean by doing something.

What I've learnt about SAD is that you have to force yourself to do things - exercise, eating well, using light etc.)

Do something positive and then come back and tell us about it, I promise you that you'll feel better for it.
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Posted by kaz_me, 11:09 20 November 2007

Thanks all! :) and yeh, I know that tablets aren't the easiest option... was on them a couple of years ago and I actually feel very lucky that I'm coping (most days...) without them now. Yay!
I actually forced myself to get up and go to the gym before work this morning - wasn't easy getting outta bed and I'm not convinced I was awake when I was at the gym but I did it! Legs are sore now tho! Lol
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Posted by Faerie9, 11:12 20 November 2007

Kaz I know the feeling! I'd decided to go to the 9.30 aerobics session on Sunday... I woke naturally at 8.55 and dragged myself there on time.... I thought I was going to do myself a mischief, I'm so unfit! But I'm glad I did it. Whether I go again is another question entirely.....!!!!!!!
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Posted by kaz_me, 11:16 20 November 2007

Wow that was a quick reply!! And nice going with the aerobics!! :)
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Posted by Me, 14:18 20 November 2007

Fantastic work guys.

Going the first time is the worst, Keep it up, itll give you a lovely lift each time you go (or should I say finish!).

Im really chuffed with you all, - I feel like Ive received 'one of lifes little ups' (you know, the sort of feeling you get when you open a new coffee jar and peel off the foil!)

I'm still obviously taking abit too much light, must reduce else Ill drive you all senseless.

Keep up the excellent work, and keep us informed, hopefully it will encourage others too. Even a brisk walk is cool, go with a friend and natter and you may not notice you,re exercising.


Brilliant
Me x
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Posted by kaz_me, 14:27 20 November 2007

Love the coffee explanation!!!
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Posted by Faerie9, 14:42 20 November 2007

I'll need a lot more encouragement to go to that aerobics class again! I'm going to try something different instead like dance, more my sort of thing.
It's great being able to encourage each other, such a boost!

*hugs all round*
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Posted by sue, 21:26 20 November 2007

Argos is selling one for £60, its 10000 lux, so might try that. its good to see that I m not the only one feeling like this in the winter
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Posted by kaz_me, 22:08 20 November 2007

ooo... thanks sue, will take a look


and *hugs* right back atcha faerie!!
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Posted by kaz_me, 22:17 20 November 2007

nope - couldn't find it... Think I'm gonna buy a dawn simulator tho, haven't heard anything bad about one!
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Posted by paulst, 22:40 20 November 2007

Dawn simulators are brilliant, im sure you wont regret it. its wonderful to wake up to a nice warm glow instead of darkness.
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Posted by Me, 23:39 20 November 2007

Ive found it on the internet:- Argos -Beauty Works Day Light. 0545424

Not sure what its like but mentions SAD! Have a read.

Dawn simulators are good, but make sure thats what you need before buying. Whilst its value in gently awakening me is valued, I wouldnt say that it was bright enough to recharge my batteries.

Sorry to put a spanner in the works.
Its a lot of money to spend to find you need the other aswell.

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Posted by Me, 00:04 21 November 2007

Faerie

Dance sounds brill. I went to Centre Parcs once, and tried out Line dancing - I enjoyed it, my mother gave in and scowled through the window at us with a drink in hand.

Also tried Salsa there too. The teacher seemed to be 'away with the fairies' (excuse the pun), but that made it a bit more interesting and slower. Enjoyed that too.

Oh also tried Fencing. Youll be glad to know that I was actualy glad when that was over. I was coaxed into it by the whole family. I reckon they just wanted to get their own back on me for the years of misery Ive given them. Unfortunately, for them the swords had blunt ends, and I came out unscaved.

You mentioned Canoeing before Paul(I think it was you) Did that when I was young for a year or so. Enjoyed that as long as I didnt have to capsize anywhere other than in a swimming pool. I was uncannily good at not going under.

Karate was a short run thing, got to purple belt, then winter set in, tears started to fly, I got frustrated, decided I wasnt learning any thing more and left. - bet that sounds familiar.

Taught Aerobics for a while, but to be honest I cant stand it. I know, I think it must have been a Spring Manic stage I was going through.

Took up running for a bit, enjoyed the freedom it gave me, I could do that anywhere and get some light at the same time. Dont run in the wind or rain though, too much like hard work.

Now yoga is the new black. Still getting into that, but it could be the start of a wonderful relationship. Lets just see what happens in the depths of January before I comment further.

Dont be sickened by all the above, I can assure you that all this was over 3 decades or so. Starting to sound lazy now arnt I.

I tell you one thing though, I think I set a new record for the high jump when I found out about the benefit info going missing. But thats a different story.

Hugs to all

Me x
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Posted by Amalthea, 00:24 21 November 2007

Me, I've got a touch of envy for all the things you've tried.

And I also enjoy yoga. I should really do it every night before sleep. Some of those back stretches help me sleep like a babe.
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Posted by Me, 00:26 21 November 2007

Gosh I think those leg exercises would disable me for a lifetime. I feel like ive been riding a horse for two years at the moment.
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Posted by paulst, 16:12 21 November 2007

Goodness you make me look lazy, all I do know is go for walks with my camera,I think I must be getting old.
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Posted by Me, 17:42 21 November 2007

Paul

Walkings perfect, and I know were all getting older (and wiser).

Me x
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Posted by kaz_me, 17:46 21 November 2007

Strange question but do such things exist as SAD lightbulbs exist?? Someone told me that we have them at work...

Also! Have def decided on a dawn simulator - really think it'll help with the getting up in the mornings... Have also discovered that the University counselling service has a lightbox! :)
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Posted by Me, 17:54 21 November 2007

Im sure youll love your dawn simulator Kaz.

Mine blew up the other day. (My life is never dull!). Well actually the fuse blew inside the simulator when the bulb blew. Had to send it back to be fixed.

Lumie were great and I got it back just a few days later, free of charge, apart from a new bulb of course.

Only realised how much I loved it when it was gone.

Me x
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Posted by paulst, 17:57 21 November 2007

I think I would be lost without mine, does anyone know roughly how long the bulbs last?
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Posted by Me, 17:58 21 November 2007

Kaz

Do you mean daylight bulbs?

Im sure some wonderful offices have the daylight bulbs or tubes. I suppose these are more expensive than ordinary fluroscent bulbs, which would explain why most offices dont.

Not talking from experience, i hasten to add, just memory - and we all know what thats like at this time of year.

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Posted by Me, 18:00 21 November 2007

Paul
My dawn simulator bulb lasted just under a year. Im hoping that that was just bad luck.
Me x
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Posted by kaz_me, 18:09 21 November 2007

Thanks me! yeah its the tubes and my memory is well shot!!! Is that normal?? I keep walking into rooms not remembering why! (I'm getting some funny looks at work I tell you!!! Lol)
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Posted by Me, 18:14 21 November 2007

Oh yes Kaz, perfectly normal for us lot.

Just gotta laugh at the things i constantly do or forgotten to do, else id have done mad by now - Quirky I think its called. But when Im low, gosh it really gets me down.

Me x
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Posted by kaz_me, 21:54 21 November 2007

Quirky... that's a great description! :)
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Posted by paulst, 22:55 21 November 2007

Thanks for the information about bulbs,I think I might get a spare one just to be on the safe side, because knowing my luck the bulb will go just when I need it most.
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Posted by Lilia, 12:27 25 November 2007

Hi I am new here and just wanted to say having read the messages that I think it is wonderful the way that people comment and get back to each other so quickly. I am unable to work due to ill health so saving for a lightbox for me would take until the next ice age. :0
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Posted by paulst, 14:53 25 November 2007

Hi lilia, welcome to the forum, hoe you can post again soon.


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Posted by diana, 13:35 27 November 2007

You seem like very nice people. Do you think we could start a campaign to relocate Christmas to, say, mid-August?
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Posted by paulst, 15:55 27 November 2007

Hi diana welcome to the forum, I like your idea to relocate Christmas, I think I would enjoy it more then.


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Posted by PurpleIvy, 18:28 27 November 2007

I tried a plan to relocate my birthday to June 21st instead of Dec 21st, but it never caught on!
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Posted by lovethesun, 19:15 29 November 2007

well in australia dec 21 is summer .if you have the money you should go.
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 23:18 29 November 2007

We have friends that have moved there to work, were hoping to go this Christmas, but with the huge building project we are completing we couldn't afford it. WOuld be nice to go next year or the year after though.
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Posted by Me, 19:16 30 November 2007

Do they have a big enough house for us all to visit for Christmas?

It would make us all less SAD? haha

Me x
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 21:13 30 November 2007

I've finished sealing the floor in the sitting room end of the new extension today. I'm really excited about this, as it means that we can get chairs in there and use it properly! There are patio style doors that are about 4m wide and a triangular bit above them. Also 2 rooflights. I didn't want a conservatory, but I did want lots of light and glass. The kitchen and dining room end doesn't have as much natural light, but it does have heaps of artificial light. This won't actually help the SAd, BUT it feels very cheerful.
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Posted by paulst, 22:35 30 November 2007

When will your extension be finished, sounds very expensive.

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