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I must be mad - quitting ADs now.

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Faerie9
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Posted by Faerie9, 13:52 19 November 2007

I must be mad.

I've decided to come off my citalopram. I started it last October, and have been gradually increasing the dose ever since. I went to the doctor last week who prescribed yet another dose increase. I left the docs feeling much more positive. Yet since then I just don't want to take more. If it was working, I wouldn't have to keep taking more and more.
I managed without drugs for 6 years. I managed marginally better with drugs for one year. And I'm back to where I was a year ago, still taking drugs.

It's odd. Part of me feels like I must be insane. Yet most of me feels like it's the right decision. One the days where I forget to take a pill (there've been a few in the last month) I feel so much better and *clearer* in my head. And I want that back. And if I'm struggling anyway, I may as well struggle without drugs as with. I'm not a fan of medication - hence why I resisted for so many years.
At least the past year has helped me build up routines and life patterns that will help me.

Sorry, I just wanted to say all that, you know, talk it aloud. Thanks.
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Posted by Suzie, 15:00 19 November 2007

Hi Faerie

Firstly I would like to say that you are very brave making the decision you have made.

I know your GP has suggested an increase and you feel that if the AD's were working you wouldn't have to take more but different people need different doses depending on the severity of their symptoms. One person may be able to achieve what they require on 10mg but another may need 30mg. It is a bit of a trial getting it right at first and it does take about 6 weeks before you start to show any improvement.

It's entirely your choice to take them or not and it will probably take you a couple of months to taper off them if that's the route you decide to take.

Gook luck lovely, we will all be here to offer you support should you need it. x

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Posted by paulst, 16:02 19 November 2007

Good luck with coming off your medication, as suzie said if you do come off them, take your time, you have been on them for quite a while, whatever you do please keep in touch, we will give you as much help as possible. Im the other way round, im off to the doctors today to see if I can increase my medication, take care.



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Posted by PurpleIvy, 17:27 19 November 2007

Are you sure it's a good time of year to be doing this? WOuldn't it be better in the spring?
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Posted by Faerie9, 17:49 19 November 2007

Thanks for the comments.

Ivy yes, of course it's a terrible time of year to be doing this! For some unexplainable reason I feel the need to try, though. If it fails, I will be clean of Citalopram and ready to start Sertraline if I really suffer. *Hopes she doesn't too much*

Suzie - I've been put up to 40mg I just can't stand to 'try another increase, see if that works' I feel like I'm flogging a dead horse! You're right though, I need to taper and not just cold turkey (I'm not that crazy!)

Paul good luck with getting your meds right and thank you everyone for the support, it's really such a blessing to have a community of people who understand and can encourage each other.

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Posted by paulst, 19:43 19 November 2007

Thanks Faerie9, I went to the doctor, no problem at all, we had a little chat about the side effects,then increased the dose(amitriptyline50mg), they do have drowsiness as the main side effect but I take them at night ,so thats ok.
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 19:59 19 November 2007

If you aren't feeling that it's giving you a therapeutic effect then there isn't any point in taking it/increasing it. Be sure and look after yourself though!
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Posted by JeanneinCanada, 20:28 19 November 2007

I'm afraid for you.

I went off my meds this fall, right in my worst season, and not just to go off, but to try another a.d. w/a clean slate. It was the most terrible timing, but I'd been trying to taper since spring and it just took that long to do it w/out making my whole spring/summer hell too.

What a terrible, horrendous mistake. I thought I remembered how bad the depressions were w/out meds, but they are either worse than I remember, or just plain worse than ever. I've been in a very dangerous place trying to get my dosage back up.

Please take this into consideration. Spring is just the other side of winter if you really need to do this, but please be as careful as you can. I thought I was, but I can't be w/out meds or I could lose my life to this disease.


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Posted by Linda, 21:05 19 November 2007

I'm into natural and alternative medicine solutions. I also can help if there are problems with AD withdrawal. Feel free to ask if you want. My opinion is that there is always a way to find the root cause(s) of suffering, and medications are rarely absolutely necessary for anyone for any reason. I am aware that this is a controversial view but I think these things need to be said from time to time, to remind people that they can empower themselves and do not have to feel they are at the mercy of their condition.

I hope this will be taken in the spirit in which it is intended, which is to offer knowledge and support.
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Posted by Faerie9, 22:21 19 November 2007

Thank you for your concern Jeanne, I've thought about it a lot and I know it sounds mental, but I feel like I need to give it a try. I'm fully prepared (read: not really but trying to be!) to move to Sertraline if I can't hack life without meds! But I think I've taken Citalopram as far as it can go.

Linda, I felt like you did about ADs and natural medicine for 6 years, and I never managed to crack it with regard to my depression/SAD. I started taking meds once I accepted I'd done as much as I could without them, and needed to try them. I'm now concerned that I've been on drugs a year, and while they were great for a while, I'm effectively back at square one again, and so I want to leave them behind for the time being. I'd love to be able to control my condition without meds. I believe in my heart that it is possible, but experience tells me it's not easy at all in reality.
I'm making a concerted effort to drink plenty water, eat healthily and get more exercise, all of which I know are a cornerstone of good health in general. Oh and I bought a lightbox too. So we shall see!
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Posted by kaz_me, 22:24 19 November 2007

Good luck Faerie9!! Coming off the ADs aren't easy but its pretty rewarding when you manage it. xx
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Posted by Amalthea, 01:25 20 November 2007

Faerie, please come on back here for support. I've not much to offer as far as the med advice goes, but what others have said sounds very sensible. Be very careful and don't make sudden, dramatic changes.

Could you keep a diary of your mood to see if it's getting worse? Sometimes we just don't think very clearly or remember things well... Even if you jot down your dosage and give your day an overall 1-10 rating of how happy you felt.

I wish you all the best and please be very careful.
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Posted by Linda, 07:54 20 November 2007

I've been there too Faerie. Tried everything I could find to deal with the depression, which was year-round but much worse in winter. I took the meds because I didn't know what else to do and I felt desperate.

Ironically, that was my ticket into the world of alt med and naturopathy. I found a group to join for people withdrawing from psychotropic drugs, run by an ND who uses diet and supplements to heal. From there I've been soaking up everything I can like a sponge. And for some, unfortunately, there is not one answer to their problems. It can often be a combination of a number of factors, some physical, some psychological.

If you haven't seen it, you might try looking a few pages back and reading the Nutrition Info topic. It might give you some ideas about what you can try doing to address your problems without drugs.

Best wishes on your journey.
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Posted by Suzie, 08:10 20 November 2007

Thats good advice from Amalthea......

Keeping a diary has been fundamental in my coping stratagies. You don't always feel like filling it in but it is amazing when you look back at how you felt on a particular day and how things have changed over a period of time.
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Posted by Faerie9, 10:07 20 November 2007

Thanks for the thoughts guys. I'm bad at keeping diaries but I think I will try again. It's a good idea, especially if it helps give me a more objective outlook on 'to drug or not to drug' so to speak!

As a random question, is there a PM function on this messageboard? I can't seem to find one.
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Posted by Amalthea, 10:35 20 November 2007

I think the admins are working on it, Faerie.
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Posted by paulst, 16:10 20 November 2007

Iwas asked to keep a diary by my councillor, it was well worth the effort, my main problem was remembering that I had a diary.! But to be serious it really is a good idea.I hope you keep in touch and let us know how you are coping, you are a much valued and supportive member.
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Posted by JeanneinCanada, 16:30 21 November 2007

You can also make notes on your calendar, its easier to remember. I'm summing up what I'm going through this year, because it will help for next. Unfortunately, it didn't do that last year and I regret it, it sure would have helped.

I have to suspect that your meds are helping you more than you think. That;s been my experience this year when I went off. I don't seem to be able to stabilize now, even though I'm finally back to the dose that worked last year. I'm pretty sure its because I was too depressed by the time I went back on my old meds. You could be heading for the same thing.

I hope that made some sort of sense, I'm pretty muddled, and this is a better day. I hope I'm not seeming too pushy, I just don't wish this hell on anyone. I totally understand your wanting to go off, the timing is dicey though.


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Posted by Faerie9, 17:27 21 November 2007

Thanks all :) Jeanne, I am really being careful and I will take your comments on board.

Update: This is day 3 of cutting down to 20mg from being on 30mg for months. Given the drug's halflife, today is the day I should start noticing a difference. Apart from feeling slightly queasy (more like butterflies than nauseaous) I feel fine. And given that I need to lose weight at the mo, not wanting to eat as much (compared to non-stop over the last few months) isn't a terrible thing! I seem to have a bit more drive to do stuff too.

I'm jotting stuff down in my work diary at the mo, will see how it goes.

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Posted by PurpleIvy, 21:00 21 November 2007

If you want to pm me faerie, my email addy is in my profile.
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Posted by Faerie9, 21:18 30 December 2007

Hi folks

I just wanted to give you an update. I know I've not been about for ages and for that I apologise.

I've been totally off citalopram now for about 10 days and I feel great.

Ok, that's not strictly true, I did have a rotten flu-type bug and am still feeling a bit 'off' and have no clue if that is withdrawing or remnants of the fluey thing. But depression-wise, I've never felt better. I've realised I must not have SAD, as the weather hasn't been bothering me at all, and for that realisation I am grateful.

It's a bit of a wierd feeling, though, to have ignored the doctors advice to increase my dose and to have done the right thing by quitting entirely. Proof that GPs are good, but ONLY YOU know deep down what you need. I acted on a whim and a gut feeling and it worked. I know it could have gone either way!

Thank you for your support, and I wish you all health and happiness for the new year

Jenni
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 21:20 30 December 2007

Glad to hear that you are feeling well now Jenni, have a good New Year!
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Posted by Faerie9, 21:25 30 December 2007

Thanks Ivy, you too! ^_^

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