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joeybear
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Posted by joeybear, 10:12 23 January 2004

Just went to the doctors and spoke to him about SAD, and he suggested just excercising every day which is easier said than done when you have no motivation. Anyone got any gentle excercise tips?
He also suggested getting a hobby that involves being busy... like my horses, which i'd do if the stables weren't so far away!

He said if that doesn't help then to come back and we can talk about anti depressance... which I'm tempted by, but put off by the fact i'd feel I was cheating myself, my friends and boyfriend... dunno. blah!
siddy
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Posted by siddy, 16:55 23 January 2004

Hello Joeybear,

well, to be effective 'exercise' has got to grab you in some way. I do mountain biking (cross country cycling) and sometimes cross country running. I do advocate it although one is expensive (bikes and clothing) and it can take a while to build up stamina which in itself can be demoralising. For me I have to enjoy
exercise/sport enough to want to go out and do it again and in some way it has to be exhilirating and blood pumping or otherwise it doesn't seem to pick me up enough.

Exercise is guaranteed to pick you up but since New year I have had almost continuous flu and colds (not just the feeling that starts each October and ends in April) so I am feeling very tired due to lack of activity.

Start with walking maybe half an hour morning and evening just to build up stamina. Ultimately in the long term you have to find something that gives enough incentive to move from the house as motivation is the key issue. If you are a social person why not also invite friends to go swimming once a week and make an occasion of it and see if you can build on these activities.

good luck :!:
joeybear
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Posted by joeybear, 20:56 23 January 2004

It's not that I don't get out enough, I used to do loads of excercise but no motivation. I go out pretty much everyday whether its to college or work or to my bfs.

I just want this horrible feeling of not having a clue of how to make myself feel better to go away. I just want to start crying all the time. It's not like one thing in particular, its just everything seems wrong and I'm finding it hard coping with every day and the thought of having to go through it again the next day makes me feel worse. I just want to go to sleep until it's all better.

I feel like anti depressance would be the only answer :(
siddy
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Posted by siddy, 09:43 24 January 2004

Hello Joeybear,

I think firstly the doctor wants to look at solutions which don't involve medication which seems a responsible attitude. I guess you are young (which is not a crime :) )but health workers don't like seeing young people on meds it's almost like "this is gonna be for the rest of their life" syndrome!

I suggest you commit yourself to some daily exercise so you can go back armed with the knowledge and evidence that you have tried his suggestion otherwise he might think you are not taking him and your condition seriously. THIS MUST BE DONE!

Sadly, I am surprised when people say what a miracle lighboxes and meds are to them because they are not miracles but tools in the reduction of symptoms I feel. I have written my sort of regime under the post 'it's a great day here' which is what I undertake to make my life easier. Meds are not the only solution and if you suffer badly you have to work through on a lot of areas. There are no simple solutions i'm afraid.

Exercise for me is essential on top of my other tricks and I am pushing myself again this weekend to get going on the cycling even though I know I will be looking at excuses and really could quite give it a miss.

Have you managed to get a lightbox? I would highly recommend getting a satellite particularly as you study. If it really is a necessity can you get money from somewhere? Will relatives or carers fork out, have you got a bit stashed away for a rainy day cos really it aint gonna get much rainier!

This is the worst time to start treating yourself as pre-planning is important when you can't think, don't try to knock yourself out when all you want to do is sleep.

I recognise at present I am focusing on this need for a 'solution' I sometimes find I am staring at the internet looking for something to jump out at me and say "here I am here is the solution to all your problems" but i have learnt to recognise the stages and take comfort in the fact it will all turn out right in time. To quote a line from a Zounds track; " i'm not looking for escapism, all I wanna do is escape".

You can get a satellite on approval so go for it, again good luck and get walking or whatever floats your boat, don't let the days slip by, you could re-book the doctors appointment as an incentive fo something to push for.

GO FOR IT
sonic
joined 24 Jan 2004
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Posted by sonic, 10:20 24 January 2004

There's a nice exercise routine here and continuing here,
from the online book The Hacker's Diet.

It sets out a series of simple exercises with a suggested way to increase from one week to the next. I like it because it's something you can do even if your motivation is low - it can be done at home and only takes 15 minutes per day.

Also, if it feels like nothing else is going right, it's one thing that you can measure definite progress on as you move up the ladder.
Arken74
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Posted by Arken74, 13:05 24 January 2004

I do have to agree with what Siddy says, lightboxes and meds are not solutions, but you also have to realise that different people have different levels of this problem. Somebody with very light sypmtons may find a lightbox is a miracle cure while some others may find they only need meds, for some it is just a case of getting out in the fresh air. Unfortunately though, some people do suffer from depression all year through which is made even worse when the Winter comes. Having been in exactly the same posistion as Joeybear, I know all of these things are as Siddy says, just tools in the reduction of symptons. I know some people are very much against the use of anti-depressents but I know first hand that you get to a stage when you would be willing to take anything rather than have to face every day knowing it won't get better. I am unfortunate enough to not be able to get out everyday for excersise and when I do, it's very little but it does give you a sense of relief to be out in the open. However, for me personally, this doesn't last once I'm back in doors. I have yet to try the lightbox as I cannot afford one but am going to save up for next year.
It is extremly frustrating sometimes going to the doctors as the fist time I went, telling my doctor how I was considering driving my car into a brick wall the last time I was out and it was scaring the hell out of me, she told me I needed a course of vitamin C ?????????
This in itself does make you fell 10 times worse because you are not being taken seriously. I couldn't get anywhere with the doctors Iwas with and was also told I needed to get myself a boyfriend and join a rambling club (this was after they told me I had M.E). As you can imagine, I left. I now (luckily) have a very good doctor but they still have to go through the usual routes of telling you to get more excersise, and Joeybear, please, whatever they tell you to do, try it and keep going back until you get somewhere. You probably will not, in all honesty, find your solution, that will come with time and through yourself, but trust me, you can find a way to feel a whole lot better while you are waiting for it. I am feeling about 80% at the moment and even in Summer, I never really feel over 90% but when you have been right at the bottom as I know you have, this is more than good enough.
Keep sticking with it and you will get there, unfortunatley, the younger you are, the less people listen (ever heard the saying "What have you got to be depressed about, if you think things are bad now, wait til you grow up")
That one always used to scare me because I couldn't face my life being worse than it was then. I can assure you though, your problems don't really get worse, they grow with you and with age comes experiance.
You are going to be fine ... peoples opinions are starting to change and younger people are starting to be taken more seriously but you need to show you are serious so keep trying.
Best of luck to you
Karen xxxxxx
joeybear
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Posted by joeybear, 18:25 24 January 2004

Thing is, the only reason I'm considering Anti Depressence, is because I've been on them twice before. Once when I was just 15 and tried to kill myself and they made me have them, and I demanded to be on them last year cos I had SAD and a dickhead boyfriend I couldn't get away from which made it worse.

But yeah, they did help, although maybe there is no point seeing as spring is only 2 months away.

I felt fine pretty much all day today, at work. Even though last night I said I was gonna quit. But the sun was shining and the sky was a perfect clear day and it even felt warm in the sunshine and it just made me smile as I walked to work.

Now it's gone dark I'm feeling like going to sleep, even though I'm leaving to go to a work party in 10 minutes! I know it'll make me feel better to have a couple of drinks and talk to friends cos at the moment the only time I really want to cry is when I'm on my own and doing nothing.

Going to see my bf tomorrow, at last, he's been ill all week, seems like months since I saw him even though it was last monday!

Ok better not bang on, gotta finish doing my hair!! Cheers guys :)
Arken74
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Posted by Arken74, 20:26 24 January 2004

Hope u had fun!!!!!!! :P
joeybear
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Posted by joeybear, 00:42 25 January 2004

I;m very drunk and just fell through someones gate and into their garden wtf?!
oldhippy
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Posted by oldhippy, 10:08 25 January 2004

:lol: Not as bad I as did once walked into the wrong house :D

Well I was in a strange place, and thats me excuse :lol:
joeybear
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Posted by joeybear, 22:57 30 January 2004

:lol: Not as bad I as did once walked into the wrong house :D

Well I was in a strange place, and thats me excuse :lol:


Haha! Blimey, I don't remember posting on here last Saturday. I only got back from my bf's today, stayed at his house all week :)

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