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Julie in Sussex
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Posted by Julie in Sussex, 21:38 15 March 2007

Hi gang

Well, ok, so feeling almost* as awful as I normally feel in March I decided to take action (literally) to try to improve the situation. Recalling how many of you feel so buoyed up and vital by exercise, out came my bloody bike for the 3rd day running, and in between there has been my yoga class which this week was particularly gruelling.

The sun was shining and off I went wending my way down country lanes, up hill and down dale for yet another 5 miles. Tired, with stiff little legs, a breathless little body, and not far from home, I rested on the bench of the church in the middle of simply nowhere where hubby and I got married ... it's just a church, fields and sheep, I normally see it as lovely. But I have to say I wept, I was trying so hard to feel better, but exercise just doesn't do it for me........

Is there anyone else out there in a similar situation with exercise, or am I a freak as I suspect?

So, I gave up for the day, had a glass or two (three) of red wine and frankly no longer cared!

I will continue with my bike tomorrow and the day after, etc. but at present I don't hold out great hope for any emotional improvement though I appreciate the upside is being more physically fit, and that is indirectly uplifting

*if my March despair and bewilderment normally score 10, currently I am experiencing 6.
darrellisgrumpy
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Posted by darrellisgrumpy, 22:44 15 March 2007

Julie,

I've noticed that you took the time to tell me how much you liked some of my posts. My ego loved it :D

Is there anyone else out there in a similar situation with exercise, or am I a freak as I suspect?

Freak ... did you say freak :oops:

Let me introduce myself ....

Furrreekk ... that's me :wink:

Julie have you been trying to hard to leave winter behind you :?:

I find exercise just seems to tire me even more quickly ... almost like flattening a rechargeable battery. I also don't like to work in the cold for too long ... I feel exhausted within less than an hour if I get cold. I work in the construction industry and hate winter when I'm up to my proverbials in cold mud and water.

I will continue with my bike tomorrow and the day after, etc. but at present I don't hold out great hope for any emotional improvement though I appreciate the upside is being more physically fit, and that is indirectly uplifting

Right Julie come on my cyber friend let's run the numbers shall we.

1) Dawn simulator
2) Bright light therapy
3) Diet ... whatever your choice
4) Medication
5) Ease up and stop beating yourself up ... this winter time will pass
6) Oh and if you've forgotten ... you're not alone :wink:
Linda
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Posted by Linda, 12:50 16 March 2007

Julie, why are you punishing yourself? Yoga should not be gruelling. You don't need to go miles on your bike if you are not used to it. Well-being is not achieved only if one reaches a state of exhaustion. Just do what you like, in amounts that feel good for you. Can you go on walks, or do some gardening? Gentle exercise can be as healing as vigorous exercise, in some ways more so.

I used to drag myself to the gym 2 years ago, knowing I'd always feel better for it. It was hard because when the depression began I lost a lot of the energy I'd previously had. In a way that did work for me, but as you remember I was still overwhelmed by depression. It was just a temporary high like so many other strategies we know and have discussed here.

However, you might find that improving your fitness by the little-and-often route will help you to feel a bit better on a regular basis, and is sure to bring health benefits. It really does need to be something you truly enjoy.

Hope this helps,
Linda.
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Posted by barefootlass, 16:53 16 March 2007

Hi Julie

I have to admit that I really like cycling - although better in summer than in the current weather and it always makes me feel better. Something to do with freewheeling down hills and yelling wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee at the top of my voice like a kid, I think. I wish I had a bike right now as I'd love to get out a bit more.

Don't force yourself to excercise just for the sake of it though, do something you enjoy. I like walking out in the country but loathe walking just for the sake of walking, I love cycling but you can't get me near a gym for love nor money. The main thing for me is getting out for 10 or 20 minutes and breathing in the fresh air and enjoying where I am. Providing the weather's nice this weekend I plan to get out in the garden and tackle several years worth of weeds in the spring sunshine.

And please tell me - am I the only person in the world who gets angry after a good session of yoga?
Julie in Sussex
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Posted by Julie in Sussex, 09:56 17 March 2007

Hiya all

Well, darrell, thank you for the kind words and the reminder:
....."5) Ease up and stop beating yourself up ... this winter time will pass
6) Oh and if you've forgotten ... you're not alone".......
too true and I have often posted such wisdom, though I obviously fail to practice it myself!

Linda ... to be honest yoga was only gruelling as it was an intense class and my body was already exhausted. I don't have ME, but when I am in my March or September I have half my usual staying power and endurance, almost everything is physically exhausting and emotionally draining.

And, yes, I do beat myself up, I do push myself ... but I am of that generation whose blueprint is "work, no melingering, get to the end of the day and look back at the fantastic list of things done and achieved..." and my formative years of 6-11 were spent in a Dickensian boarding school ~ I need say no more really!

Anyway, will try harder (!) to beat myself up less, but still need to know why exercise does not work for me. In the summer I love nothing better than riding my bike and walking by way of exercise.

Barefootlass (lovely name!) I have no idea why you are cross at the end of a good sesh of yoga, I am usually so spaced out I wonder if it's safe to actually drive myself home!! Do you feel physically good though? Hope so! Yes, I will garden and attend to my hens this weekend, I do find that therapeutic ... it was just that elusive exercise-fix I was after!

As I type this, my 23 year old son is challenging me to ride my bike for that up-hill down-dale 5 mile route as he jogs it....... so that puts me in a spot, I don't allow myself to fail and I think I just might either way ... if I don't go I fail, if I do go and can't keep up, guess what, I fail again.

:roll:
Linda
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Posted by Linda, 11:22 17 March 2007

Julie I have been reading a book that was recommended to me called Radical Acceptance, by Tara Brach. She is an American psychotherapist and Buddhist teacher.

The bottom line of this book, and indeed one of the most important ideas in Buddhism, is what she calls radical acceptance. It starts by learning how to live in each moment without judgement or criticism of oneself. Letting emotions come and go without the judging, planning, and reactivity that so many of us are programmed to use. Recognising that Buddha, or divine, nature is inside us and everyone else, and focusing on that -- ceasing to tell ourselves that something is wrong, that we are inadequate.

It's a pretty radical idea to accept that we are good enough, isn't it? It isn't the same as ceasing to grow and change, which it is human nature to do. It means loving and caring for ourselves. It's amazing how much of our behaviour actually stems from this idea "I'm not good enough." It's especially easy when you are depressed and frustrated about not being able to do things you have been able to do in the past.

This book is making a big difference for me, Tara Brach explains all this better than I could. Just hearing you say that you are angry that exercise isn't "doing it" for you, that you are still under pressure (in this case from your son) to do it even though you find it exhausting and not particularly enjoyable at the moment, brought this to mind. Try being your own best friend, not judging, and ask yourself what advice you would give.

Linda :)
Julie in Sussex
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Posted by Julie in Sussex, 22:03 17 March 2007

I suppose personal discipline must be my forte...............

Well, I went for the bike ride with jogging oh-so-fit son...... he was sweet with me, and so encouraging that I really could not let him down, or claim that he forced me to go. I could just about peddle as fast as he jogs and he still managed to talk to me as he ran (!)..... but, I made it somehow, all 5 miles, it took 40 minutes!

With a "well done Mum" I collapsed on the sofa. The well done mum bit did lift my spirits, so this time I guess there was an upside :)

Thanks Linda, I have read a number of books on a similar theme, but I will look that one out. But, I confess that, though I absorb and make mental notes of all that I am learning, it is short lived unless I read the book over and over, ad infinitum.

I'm like a piece of elastic really, I can stretch myself and puff up with good intentions, come alive really … but left unattended without constant input I recoil to my original state. I positively fill up with renewed vigour and good intentions as long as I am receiving powerful encouragement, the minute it stops, poufff, back to square one. But this is classic really for any issues one has in life - dieting, giving up alcohol/drugs, starting at the gym, New Years Resolutions, not rising to the bait, trying to be one's own best friend, well the list is simply endless.

Apologies that this has been a rather me me me post, I actually hate drawing attention/being in the limelight, just got desperate I guess. Thanks for reading me :)
darrellisgrumpy
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Posted by darrellisgrumpy, 11:53 18 March 2007

Apologies that this has been a rather me me me post
Julie,
Do you mind if I share a thought or two with you please :?: :) My late father was a difficult man to live with. His SAD caused huge mood swings and his aggression would often spill over into both mental and physical abuse for me and mum. :cry: Until the age of about 14 or 15 I genuinely believed that it was "normal" to be treated in this way by him. I bore great feelings of failure when I was young as I often felt as though I was letting him down. The harder I tried the worse it became.

A SAD with no knowledge that he had a mood disorder was raising me and I suffered wit SAD too. An impossible nightmare. Total family breakdown. :cry:
All very very SAD.

In recent years as the clouds of depression have been lifted I have been able to reappraise the emotions and body languages of the world I live in. It's damned hard. It's like being a ruddy teenager again. :twisted:

My confidence is extremely shaky during my winter. It never really got started in my teens. At times I have to put a face on which suggests I am confident. It's the typical SAD front :wink:

Seven years ago after diagnosis I began to work with my shattered mind. As despondency and negative thoughts crept into my mind I would tackle them immediately in the spot. Over time it's helped. Yes I feel down at times. I feel exhausted too. I keep reminding myself that I will not feel low forever and that next year I will reduce my winter from three months to 10 weeks.

Small steps Julie. Ease up on yourself. Can you afford a cheap break in Tenerife during your winter. It could provide you with some focus. Something to look forward too.

All the very best
Darrell

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