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PurpleIvy
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 21:12 28 March 2007

http://www.airionizer.biz/seasonal_affective_disorder.htm

Wondered if anyone had heard about this as a treatment for SAD? Answers on a postcard pls......
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Posted by Julie in Sussex, 22:06 28 March 2007

Hiya ... well siddy will be able to confirm this, but if my memory serves me well, Dr Norman Rostenthal included negative ionisers in the SAD Seminar which he chaired in London a couple of years ago. I absorbed the information that they are very beneficial for 'some' people, but that was not quite enough to encourage me to spend quite a bit of money on one, they are expensive I believe.
PurpleIvy
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 22:09 28 March 2007

Found a plan for making your own on a website, my dad has made little electronic gizmos in the past, it depends how ££ the parts are whether it would be worth it. Sounds like the Ionisers make your air nice and fresh anyway. WIll try and read more about this.
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Posted by darrellisgrumpy, 22:20 28 March 2007

Hi Purple,

I use an ioniser during my winter at night time when in bed. I put it on my bedside locker. I tend to feel it makes me sleep more restfully.

One particular point I should point out is that these things only cost about £20.00 so they aren't budget breakers.

Oh ... 'n' another thing you should know ... your pc kicks out lots and lots of ions that don't agree with you. You can purchase devices to attach to them to combat the effect this "may" have on you as a depressive

The point really is nothing ventured nothing gained. Failure is never trying.

Take care
PurpleIvy
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 22:29 28 March 2007

I could really kick off about you calling me a 'depressive'! But I won't. The reason is that in spite of having most of the symptoms of depression throughout the winter months... OK , well sometimes for quite a lot of them, I know that come spring I will fully remit.

My GP did a questionnaire this winter to assess my condition and it came out quite bad. The only things that prevented the score being truly terrible were that I am never ever suicidal (in spite of the fact that I take medication in the winter ) and have never felt that way. Also that I don't have self-worth problems, as I know it's a temporary situation. Since the pattern to my 'depression' has been found I have got a good level of acceptance about it and that prevents me feeling that I'm depressed. I guess these days I just get on with it, I'm learning strategies for dealing with SAD and during the summer forget all about it almost.

Even now, I'm feeling really good and can hardly remember the time only 2 months ago when I couldn't cope with going into work. At the moment I find it hard to imagine how and why that was!

I probably spend too much time at the computer, especially in the winter, I find it much more entertaining than the telly (I never go near the telly!) and of course sit there with my SAD lamp. WIll have a look out for a suitable ioniser at some stage, not sure what the difference in prices will bring.

Would still be interested to hear anyone elses experience of these.

Thanks Darrell
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Posted by darrellisgrumpy, 23:07 28 March 2007

I could really kick off about you calling me a 'depressive'!


Oh hell I'd better get my coat :oops: loads of laughs.

I'll try and find a different label for you PC ....

How about Purplecrab :?:

I have a very good friend who seems to have come to terms with her SAD in a very similar way that you have. She's been a rock for me and I really do feel quite envious about her approach. I don't do as well with "the acceptance" bit and as such my road isn't always as easy as I could make it.

Well Purplecrab I'll take my leave, my bat and ball and tootle off home :cry:

Loads of laughs.

The gems are beginning to show up hereabouts.

Perfick :D
Linda
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Posted by Linda, 07:41 29 March 2007

I bought the air ionizer that Norman Rosenthal talks about in the recent edition of his book, from the US company that makes them. It helped a little with my mood but not significantly, and I had to leave it on all night to get any benefit. Every morning when I woke up the inside of my nose was swollen and my sinuses were congested. When it broke several months later I didn't bother to try to get it replaced.

An ionizer that produces the sort of concentration that Rosenthal says is therapeutic is industrial-standard. You'd have to pay a lot of money for one. The one from the US is actually a lot cheaper than what you'd pay for something similar in the UK.

As always with these kinds of things, this is my own experience. Someone else might find it helps them more. Give it a try if you like.

Linda.
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Posted by dz1, 16:55 5 May 2007

I've come across one ioniser, called the Elanra, that it's makers claim is the only therapeutic ioniser available on the market. They claim it is the only one that produces small ingestible negative ions of oxygen which the body can use.

They have a page comparing their ioniser with others here :

http://elanra.co.uk/otherionisers.htm

One of the ionisers linked to by purplecrab in the first post is compared on the above page too. It doesn't fare too well. That ioniser also looks very similar to the one that Rosenthal recommends in his book.

I wonder why Rosenthal doesn't recommend the Elanra in his book, since I believe it produces a higher concentration of negative ions than the Sphere One ioniser that he recommends and in addition produces small negative ions of oxygen at a useful range.

I own the Elanra but haven't been able to test it properly yet. I also own another ioniser that has a very high output of negative ions, but it didn't make any noticeable difference to my SAD.
PurpleIvy
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 20:49 28 November 2007

Anyone seen Darrell round?
Suzie
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Posted by Suzie, 21:01 28 November 2007

Not seen him for ages....

I miss Darrell :(
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Posted by Amalthea, 23:36 28 November 2007

Oof, this is old stuff but I just found it. Wanted to add my two cents about ionizers.

They were selling these ionizers made by the company "Sharp." So, I decided to look into them. If the information I got was correct, they can actually be bad for asthmatics (like me). Ah... here's a link:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/asthma/AN00443

So, maybe the problem was that the Sharp ionizer also released ozone, which is bad for asthmatics. In any event, it's something to be mindful about if you plan to purchase an ionizer -- check to be sure it's not an ozone generator as well as an ionizer.

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