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angelc venus
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Posted by angelc venus, 19:37 26 August 2007

So it is coming up to September and the beginning of Autumn in the UK, how is everyone feeling?

I am feeling pretty rough, this poor summer has really taken it's toll on me, and am considering going back on to medication before September even hits.

How is everyone else dealing with things?

Hope you are well.

Adam.
paulst
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Posted by paulst, 20:09 27 August 2007

HI adam, I know how you feel, the Summer has been one of the worst I can remember. Ive been using my lightbox most days and am on medication, perhaps we will have a nice Autumn :)



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Posted by Suzie, 18:46 28 August 2007

Well guys, I started taking my meds again last week, been on them for five days now after a 4 month break. Have tried to leave it as long as possible but I know in my heart of hearts that I should have been taking it before now. So I am hoping to feel a bit better soon.
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Posted by virraszto, 04:54 29 August 2007

I am dreading this winter already. June, July and up until 2 weeks ago have been beautiful here, but the last two weeks we've had nothing but rainy, gloomy weather. These last two weeks have been really hard on me. Do you all get panicky like I do about this time? I've never used a light box before, but I just recently ordered one. It came a couple days ago, but I've been out of town and haven't had a chance to use it. I am hoping upon hope that this thing will work for me.

If not, I will have to go to the dr. and get put on some meds. I can't take another winter with SAD and nothing to help.
Phaedrus
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Posted by Phaedrus, 09:10 29 August 2007

Hi all,

The sun's shining today but it really has been an awful summer. Yes, let's hope for a nice Indian summer in September.

I haven't got my lightbox out yet but I think I'll definitely start needing it over the next couple of weeks.

At this time of year I always get the urge to go into hibernation and just leaving the house is a bit difficult at times. However, I find that exercise is key and just walking a mile or two every day really does make a difference.

Also, talking to others on the forum can be a real help, even just to show that you're not alone, so don't despair and keep posting!
Amalthea
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Posted by Amalthea, 10:51 30 August 2007

SAD is starting to affect me, and it seems so early for this. I feel dread...If I described this feeling in imagery, it feels like I'm hanging on, white-knuckled. I don't have a strong support system here in this city, and I've felt lonely, isolated.

I've started my light therapy again, but it would be good to talk to other SAD sufferers... I know I tend to withdraw from folks when SAD hits, and this isn't going to be good for me this year when I don't have many friends in my area to begin with.
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Posted by MegS, 02:43 31 August 2007

I'm also feeling self isolating lately. Seems like this board is the only place I feel at home. I feel pretty good in the mornings, and I've been making myself get out and walk for an hour in the early morning, but the good effects of the walk seem to wear off rather quickly, and by noon I'm ready to eat bread and potatoes and go back to bed.....Have also been having spells of feeling hot and then cold. Does anyone else go through this? Am getting tired of putting on and taking off sweaters......
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Posted by snowbird, 16:41 2 September 2007

Hi,
It has made me feel alot better about things, realising that i am not the only one that is feeling this bad this early in the year! I thought i was going mad!
I have been diagnosed with SAD for 5 years, and usually only turn by light box on and increase by meds in the middle of Sept, and i normally hit a real low point in Nov- but i seem to of hit that point already.

I am scared that it will be a really bad year as it has started so soon- what do you all think?

love
Lizzie
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Ali
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Posted by Ali, 16:41 3 September 2007

Hi everyone,
I've not posted for a long time but I regularly check in to see how everyone is managing and to stop me feeling isolated in my SAD little world! I've started on my meds on 1st Sept to get them into my system for my brain starting to shut down in October. I had a reasonable winter last year by starting meds early, going on holiday in November and being very strict with my light and exercise regime. It was exhausting but worth it as I had the best winter in many years. Having said that I am still already feeling the dread and panic of the looming winter months and I am already feeling quite anxious about it all. Looks like it's light box time!
Keep your chins up
Amalthea
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Posted by Amalthea, 10:37 5 September 2007

Ali,
I'm really glad you mentioned the exercise. I do recall now that two years ago, I kept up my exercise routine at least three times per week and did some yoga now and then. I did have a much better winter. Last year, my routine changed and I was really struggling.

I do use lightbox therapy, which helps... and I have to get my lightbox in my bedroom set up on the timer again... I don't have a dawn simulator, so I use that instead. It's not nearly as "gentle" but it's all I've got for now.
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Posted by Suzie, 18:26 9 September 2007

Hi guys

I wanted to run a theory past you all and see what your thoughts are.

For the past few weeks I have been feeling like most of us on here, very low, tired, no energy, disrupted sleep patterns etc and feeling like my SAD symtoms are upon me already.

I am going to a support group and we were discussing how I feel with regards to lack of motivation and feeling very down. After some advice and comments someone suggested that I may feel like I do not because my SAD has kicked in early but because I am anxious about what I know is going to happen in the coming months.

After considering this I think they may have something, especially as far a the low mood is concerned. Maybe I am feeling low because I know what is going to happen and how I am going to feel. Maybe it is the anxiety and the feeling of dread that is making me low at this point, rather than the SAD itself. Maybe we should take each day as it comes rather than think about whats going to happen to us over the next six months.

What does everyone else think about this theory?
Ali
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Posted by Ali, 10:06 10 September 2007

Suzie,
I couldn't agree with you more. At the moment it is lighter than it is in March (when I feel OK) so I am convinced that my current anxiety is the thought of what is to come rather tha the SAD itself and that my symptoms reduce in March as, psychologically, I know that Spring is coming and it will only get better.That's why I think the CBT will help me (when I eventually get an appointment). CBT will help me to challenge the "automatic thoughts" that I get about winter. I wish I could embrace winter and remember the nice things like curling up all cosy in front of the fire and nice walks on crisp frosty days.
Phaedrus
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Posted by Phaedrus, 10:10 10 September 2007

Hi Suzie,

I couldn't agree more. For me, one of the things which characterises this time of year, is the feeling of dread when I think about the ensuing 6 months of darkness; despite the fact that the evenings are still farily light and up here in the North East we've had a couple of weeks of lovely weather. In essence, although I'm still feeling fine, my concern is regarding how I'm going to feel in a few weeks time.

However, you're right in saying that it's important to take it a day at a time and not wish your life away, although I have started planning little treats over the next few months, so I've got things to look forward to (trips to the theatre, long weekends, visits to friends etc).
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Posted by snowflake, 23:53 10 September 2007

It's true and I have been dreading it... especially now I am living with my boyf... always was able to have my time out before and I guess hide it somewhat!!!
The paranoia has already kicked in, as have the tears!
Reading the other posts and again all the bumf on SAD I realise why I am not sleeping well! In the past I have always overslept with it, not woken up at stoopid o'clock and had a fitful sleep!!
Anyway a big big hug to everyone out there, the winter seems to have come early!! Doh!!
Amalthea
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Posted by Amalthea, 11:31 12 September 2007

I'm almost certain this will be the year I start anti-depressants. I panicked yesterday and am still feeling a strong unease, impatience. I have called my friends out of the blue to talk, because of feeling alone. The SAD symptoms seem early and severe. I remember when I didn't know I had SAD -- how much worse it was to not know why I was suddenly a different person.
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Posted by paulst, 16:16 12 September 2007

I think because of the poor Summer, a lot of us have started treatment early. Ive started medication, have started using my lightbox and have just had my first meeting with a councillor, hopefully I will start to feel better soon :)



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Amalthea
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Posted by Amalthea, 20:36 12 September 2007

paulst,
I hope you do have a better winter this year. It's good to have you on the forum, though. I wish you luck with the counseller. I think it really can help if they know about SAD -- it's a matter of finding the right "fit" though.

Best wishes to you.

- H
Minnie
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Posted by Minnie, 22:18 12 September 2007

I totally agree with you. I have felt slightly panicky recently thinking of the months ahead. I know it's not because SAD has come early, but because of the despair I feel at having lost the summer months - and my summer life!

I have agreed with myself to begin taking my ADs on 21st September. I stopped on the 21st April, so it's a date I can stick to.

I really don't want to start taking them. They make me feel like I'm someone else - like I'm a fraud. Once I start taking them, I know that's it :(
Amalthea
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Posted by Amalthea, 01:34 13 September 2007

Minnie,
I often have that feeling of being a "fraud." I'm not on medications right now. There are times when I feel as though people see me as 'empty.' Just a husk of a person... that when I laugh, they know it's fake... that I don't have a right to join in a conversation with them because I'm just an awkward, empty person.

Do you think it's your medicine or a manifestation of SAD? I have so much self-doubt this time of year.

I'm a bit worried about you setting a particular date to start your meds... SAD hit me so hard, so fast this year. In previous years, I was in the thick of it and having suicidal thoughts before I even recognized what was happening to me. Please be careful.

- H
paulst
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Posted by paulst, 16:07 13 September 2007

Hi, I think its best to start medication when you feel ready, how you feel inside, your moods etc. Im very lucky to have a very understanding doctor. Some people see it as a weakness to take medication, but really, its just a sign that you want to take control of your illness and for me that is a positive sign.



paul :)
Minnie
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Posted by Minnie, 00:33 14 September 2007

I'm best when I start meds in September. SAD doesn't really get me til about October/November and they usually take about 6 weeks to work for me.

I really don't want to take them this year, but I know that I have to. If I don't, I know when I need them they won't do any good. Setting a date for me is my way of making sure I start them sooner rather than later. It's my best way of making sure I do what I supposed to - and stick to it.

Thanks for your concern though :)
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Posted by Gemmzie, 22:39 15 September 2007

I'm a mess :(

I can't make decisions, I'm shattered, I'm moody - and am annoyed on top because it's only mid-Sep
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Posted by clive ghosh, 22:13 16 September 2007

Hi Gemmzie

You know, you really need to turn this round because there is one hell of a long stretch ahead of us - its still a week until the equinox.
I think many things in life are stressful because of the way we approach them; change the approach and sometimes you ameliorate the situation.
If you are clouded with negativity, this may be difficult.
If it helps, I too am apprehensive about the winter. And people on this forum understand how you feel.
take care

clive
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Posted by Hadrian, 23:23 16 September 2007

In my opinion there is no shame whatsoever in taking anti-depressants.
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Posted by winterme, 05:40 17 September 2007

i think summer was canceled this year :lol:
though i cant complain it could have been worse, yes i know how?
it could have rained ALL the time. :lol:
i have been really down this year, so much so that my doctor told me not to come off the tablets unless i really wanted to.
I am not looking forward to winter, unless we get a heat wave.
Actually i like the snow, its bright when it snows and it makes me feel good, so either i want a heat wave, or its to snow from now to about may, ta.
Minnie
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Posted by Minnie, 00:07 19 September 2007

In my opinion there is no shame whatsoever in taking anti-depressants.


Don't know if you're referring to my comments, but what I meant by 'feeling like a fraud' is that I feel out of sync with the rest of the world and, yes, I don't feel natural. I don't feel like the real me. That's not shame, that's just the truth.

I don't want to start taking ADs this winter because I don't want to lose the easy savvy I have with being a person.

8)
Minnie
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Posted by Minnie, 00:16 19 September 2007

Actually i like the snow, its bright when it snows and it makes me feel good, so either i want a heat wave, or its to snow from now to about may, ta.


I'll agree with you there. I also love the clear blue sky on a bright winters day. On a bright day, I often get the feeling of being completely enchanted :) lol is this some kind of hypomania...
Amalthea
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Posted by Amalthea, 04:46 19 September 2007

Re: feeling like a fraud

I wonder if what they're calling "Impostor Syndrome" has anything to do with SAD symptoms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_Syndrome

I still experience this in the summer, but it may just be that I remember how I am in the winter-time: empty, lacking confidence, fearing someone will realize I'm not the person they think I am, just generally lacking "as a person." There are so many times I just feel "blank" -- like I should have an opinion on a subject, should be able to contribute... but I just don't find myself feeling passionate or driven.

Of course, it could just be the depression and physical/mental fatigue of SAD. There's the social manifestation of not feeling capable of engaging other people during the wintertime, too -- surely that doesn't help.

I'm not on any medication for SAD, just light therapy. There are (many) times I still feel the way I've described, though.
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 10:07 19 September 2007

Am taking med as of yesterday. hope this will prevent things getting as bad as they have previously. It's a different way of looking at the problem I suppose, but it has left me with low mood as I would still rather wait until I need med (stupid, as I know it's going to happen ) and physically low as I 'acclimatise' to the med.

Never mind. I'm meeting Suzie for coffee on Friday, that will cheer me up. WIll nick PaulSt's Galaxy as well.
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Posted by John Hopper, 10:03 21 September 2007

Amalthea

I agree with you. There are times when I feel at work that everyone is more able, quicker and genrally more with it and I feel a fraud...but intellectually I know that is not the case. :lol:

John
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Posted by jessie, 17:14 21 September 2007

hi amalthea read your notes and rest easy we are here to listen and understand how you feel. I suffer most of the usual sad symptoms but not the carbohydrate munchies one so much. Over the last few years I've cut out bread and sweet stuff (still steal chocolate when no-one's watching), so my weight has kinda dropped which is just as well as my trousers bulged and I look terrible on the beach. Middle aged spread? ha! have more or less been on a gi diet for several years now where fruit, veg, and good things are prevalent - most of it is pretty revolting but I eat it with a smile and have cut out the crappy foodstuffs and fastfoods and honestly feel better if not healthier for it. Rather than do undercover winter things I do as much as possible outside even if its nasty, we've got one of those 'go ape' things near us, you know swinging through trees on lines 40' above ground? Scares the bejesus outta me, but its a good rush. I suggest doing something stupid outside as much as possible during daylight hours whatever the weather. What does everyone else do as a cheer up?
PurpleIvy
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 17:27 21 September 2007

I had a coffee at M&S with Suzie today, that cheered me up! :wink:

Got a couple of things for Christmas, so less to do at that stressful time of year.
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Posted by ally may, 22:30 22 September 2007

"Christmas, so less to do at that stressful time of year."

totally agree less light more demands placed upon the individual!!
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Posted by becky19, 11:40 23 September 2007

christmas is about the only thing that gets me through winter. i love buying presents
Amalthea
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Posted by Amalthea, 23:31 23 September 2007

jessie,
Thanks for your reply. I'm finding it a struggle to cut back the carbs -- been dealing with some binging ever since I started living alone and had ended a relationship of 10 years. I know it's still a transitional period and should get easier when I get a little more disciplined about a daily routine. A food diary tends to straighten me out when I keep it updated.
Two years ago, I had a very good winter (I'm amazed!), and I suppose the weather was milder for the most part, but I also feel that regular yoga workouts were helpful. I do very basic yoga, but still enjoy the benefits of greater flexibility and strength, less achy muscles (esp. lower back!) and better sleep. It also helped me cope with stress from my job.
Now, I try to spend time out and in the woods, bird-watching. I hope that my bird-feeder will help keep me feeling cheery.

If you have any quick and easy veggie or fruit recipes, I'd love for you to share. I hate being in the kitchen -- just not a domestic sort, despite my gender. :lol: My problem is, I have so little energy in the winter... about the only good thing about winter is my love of (canned) soup!

Heather

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