Thinking... since moving to Australia

The Lumie forum is for general discussion of Seasonal Affective Disorder and all things light therapy. To join in you'll need to register.

We do not monitor this forum every day. If you want to reach Lumie please go to our contact us page.

Post reply Start new thread
Sunshine
joined 22 Feb 2005
109 posts

send a pm

Posted by Sunshine, 10:25 2 May 2007

Is it possible the disorder could be related to other medical conditions - namely glandular problems?

I first began to experience SAD after suffering Glandular Fever at the age of 16. Lymph nodes in my neck and behind my ears have never quite returned to their normal size, and I have never had the same amount of energy. I had put the latter down to increasing age, stress, beginning full time work etc.

Symptoms I suffered when back in the UK included:

Low mood
Irritable
Aching joints
Weak muscles
Bouts of severe depression
Light intolerance
Carbohydrate craving
Vastly increased appetite, followed by lack of appetite, in some cases for days
Apathy
Social sensitivity
Lack of interest in usual hobbies and any social activities
Lack of concentration
Lack of libido
Chronic fatigue
Anxiety attacks
Insomnia
Nightmares
Paranoia

With the help of supplements including Zinc, Omega 3, 6 and 9 Magnesium B6, a balanced diet and regular exercise, I have managed to vastly reduce or eliminate the above symptoms since moving to Australia. Lowering the intake of any of these supplements has an almost immediate affect on my mood.

Interestingly, symptoms I would never have believed to be related have now also disappeared, including:

Back ache
Severe headaches/Migraines
Intense menstrual pain, heavy bleeding and clotting
Intense PMT, emotional and physical

Also, as a sufferer of Supra Ventricular Tachycardia (SVT), I can report that symptoms related to this have now significantly decreased and I have been able to halve my medication.

Lack of daylight still results in a return of most symptoms, albeit far less severe than I ever experienced in the UK. I have also noticed physical symptoms which follow these - swollen glands, sore eyes, cold sores, sore throat, runny nose - the usual symptoms of the common cold. Could this be a glandular reaction to SAD? Or is SAD a glandular malfunction in itself? Many glands are capable of affecting our mood and energy levels - pineal, thyroid, hypothalamus. This would certainly explain the chemical imbalance between serotonin, adrenaline, melatonin and noradrenalin.

I’m not really sure whether or not to present this as a report, nor who would be interested in reading, as with no medical background I am unable to present any conclusive evidence other than my own experiences.

I would be grateful to hear your thoughts on this!
Linda
Linda
joined 15 Dec 2004
997 posts

send a pm

Posted by Linda, 11:12 2 May 2007

Wow Sunshine, this is wonderful news! Thanks for sharing it. I'm so glad things are getting better for you. And no I'm not surprised that so many of your symptoms have lifted. Everything in the body is interconnected, and a nutritional deficiency can manifest itself in many ways. Address that, and things start sorting themselves out.

I'm just wondering . . . do you take any vitamin C? How much magnesium do you take/what kind? Also, have you tried taking a multi-B vitamin supplement? You can end up throwing things out of balance sometimes if you take one B vitamin on its own; they work in synergy.

Problems with the endocrine system can very commonly cause depression, seasonal or not, with all its accompanying symptoms. This goes beyond any knowledge I've been able to obtain personally. Have you thought about seeking out a naturopath near you? Someone who can diagnose and help you repair hormonal imbalances.

Just another question -- what meds are you on? Is it still just the beta blocker?

I hope the job is going well too . . . let us know and keep in touch :)

Linda.
Sunshine
joined 22 Feb 2005
109 posts

send a pm

Posted by Sunshine, 11:23 2 May 2007

Hi Linda,

I cannot take a concentrated form of any vitamin because of my heart meds. The meds themselves have never really affected me other than increasing the fatigue, but that's because my heart rate is now so low (around 48) so is understandable.

I haven't changed my diet/nutrition since leaving the UK - it's definitely the sun that's helping me. I recently spent some time in Sydney and even the slight change in the weather there produced some symptoms.

How are you doing now?
Linda
Linda
joined 15 Dec 2004
997 posts

send a pm

Posted by Linda, 21:01 2 May 2007

Me? I had a rough 3 months. Trying to pull out of it now. I'm doing everything I can to secure a part time job for the autumn, even if it is supply teaching. The depression lifted for a while last autumn when I worked as a teaching assistant, but I had to quit because my body was still too prone to overstimulation of the nervous system due to antidepressant withdrawal, and things like rowdy lessons, ringing bells and working more hours than my body could handle, made me ill. I think I'll be able to cope a bit better now that more time has passed and I've been resting up. I can watch a film on TV at night with sunglasses on now. At first, I couldn't watch any TV at all without my heart racing.

Your post raised a few questions as I read it. Unfortunately I do not have the knowledge to address these things, but it might be worth your while to find someone who does. I know I could be completely wrong about anything I say here but I would like to help if I can.

I wonder how the heart meds are really affecting you. Effects of medications aren't always noticeable, and they can build up over time and still not be noticeable. Prescription meds can cause or worsen nutritional deficiencies and they can cause imbalances in the body by blocking various functions. I don't know anything about SVT, is it a physical problem? Do you know what caused it?

Like you said, it seems to me that it's worth investigating a possible link between the effects of the glandular fever, and any problems you are having now.

Maybe this just shows my ignorance of these things, but why can you not take a concentrated form of a vitamin, what does your med do that affects this? If your doctor has explained the reason to you and it seems clear, then it's maybe another good reason to find a way to get off the med eventually. I don't know whether this is a possibility for you.

I'm glad the move to Australia is working out so well for you. It sounds like the intense sun is helping to lift your depression. Have you made any plans to see other parts of the country? I'm surprised you've come back to the forum to be honest; most people, when they are feeling better, want to forget about how awful they used to feel LOL. Thanks for keeping in touch and letting us know how you're doing :)

Linda.
Suzie
Suzie
joined 26 Jan 2007
439 posts

send a pm

Posted by Suzie, 18:29 3 May 2007

Hi Sunshine

I was very interested to read your post and it got me thinking about an illness I had in my teens.

When I was about 13-14 I had a really bad episode of illness which started in January and lasted until April. The doctor "diagnosed" glandular fever but I had numerous blood tests and nothing came back to say that is what is was. I lost a lot of weight and had constant flu like symtoms. (I often wonder if this was the start of my SAD due to the time of year it happened)

In November 2003 I lost partial sight in my right eye. Again after numerous weekly tests for MS and MRI scans nothing was concluded. It now transpires that the lost of my sight may have been a virus and the start of what they have now diagnosed as ME/CFS.

I have had SAD for at least 20 years but didn't realise that was what it was until the winter 0f 2000.

I have relapse periods of extreme pain in my joints and muscles can't exercise and I am now on the way to mastering the art of "pacing". I can be fine one minute, the next I have a temperature, swollen glands under my arms and neck, sort throat, and ache all over. I go to bed thinking I will get up the next day with the flu or a cold, but nothing. It is as if it has never happened, until I am active again the next day and again by the evening I feel the same. I have noticed this always happens on a Monday evening and I have put it down to doing too much at the weekends and then going to work on Monday.

I don't know if that is of any help to you but it seems such a coincidence. I feel that Glandular Fever/ME are connected and could be connected to SAD.

Post a reply

Please note, this forum is for issues relating to SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder) and light therapy.

The site is not monitored every day. Offensive posts, including those that blatantly promote products or services, will be removed but should you find something you dont like, please let us know.

To include working links in your post, use [url] at the start and [/url] at the end e.g. Have a look at [url]http://www.lumie.com[/url] for light therapy info

You can edit your message up to 15 minutes after posting.

Please send me an email when someone contributes to this discussion

Please note: submitting a comment will invite you to log in or register for free. Your comment will only display if you log in or register.

Forum terms and conditions.

Contact Us telephone 01954 780500