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spiral stairs
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Posted by spiral stairs, 11:46 12 September 2007

hello everyone,

i am going to buy a light box any day now, but am finding it difficult to choose one. i am a student, so i have a limited price range (around £100).

i have found a few options that are in my price range, and am wondering if anyone knows anything about these.

the first is this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/20000-LUX-SAD-LIGHT-BOX-LIGHTBOX-LAMP-DAYLIGHT-THERAPY_W0QQitemZ300148921271QQihZ020QQcategoryZ122748QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

it's from ebay, but i'm not sure if will work the same as other, 'official' lightboxes. is it one of those converted lightboxes? i'm not sure on this one.

the second is this http://www.allergymatters.com/acatalog/Best_Lightbox_Inspiration.html

it's from an 'official' source, has anyone got any experience of this?

the other option is the brightspark. anyone got any opinions on any of these?

as money is so tight, i need to make sure i'm getting good value for money, so any help would be much appreciated!

thanks,

sandalau
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Posted by Suzie, 16:24 12 September 2007

Hi Sandalau

I have a brite spark and its great. It's compact and can be used at work should you need it. I have had mine for about 3-4 years now and wouldn't be without it.

I wouldn't buy from ebay unless it is a model you know. Also it could be false ecomony because you may get it cheap but you don't know how long the owner has had it and it may need new bulbs (approx 12.50 each). These need to be changed about every 2-3 years depending on usage.

Hope this helps
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Posted by dz1, 15:12 14 September 2007

hello everyone,

i am going to buy a light box any day now, but am finding it difficult to choose one. i am a student, so i have a limited price range (around £100).

i have found a few options that are in my price range, and am wondering if anyone knows anything about these.

the first is this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/20000-LUX-SAD-LIGHT-BOX-LIGHTBOX-LAMP-DAYLIGHT-THERAPY_W0QQitemZ300148921271QQihZ020QQcategoryZ122748QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

it's from ebay, but i'm not sure if will work the same as other, 'official' lightboxes. is it one of those converted lightboxes? i'm not sure on this one.



It doesn't say at what distance it does 20,000 lux at. Even weak lightboxes can do 20,000 lux at very close distances. 20,000 lux at 1cm would be my guess for that one judging by its poor specs. I would steer well clear of it if i were you.


the second is this http://www.allergymatters.com/acatalog/Best_Lightbox_Inspiration.html

it's from an 'official' source, has anyone got any experience of this?



According to the specs on that website that lamp only does 10,000 lux at a distance of 15cm. That makes it almost useless as a viable lightbox. You are better off buying a more powerful lightbox and a dawn simulator separately.
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Posted by TomBanks, 20:56 12 November 2007

ive seen some cheaper light boxes on Amazon, just type in SAD light therapy in amazon.co.uk , another handy site is http://www.AntiAllergyProducts.com
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Posted by Me, 21:04 12 November 2007

Just keep in mind that if you need to use it every day, you will need a portable one. I spent quite a bit of money on mine 10 years ago, but I still use it now, and I certainly have had my moneys worth out of it. Just remember that you will also be using it perhaps every day for a good number of winters!

This year I have ordered new bulbs as mine have gone as grey as some white laundry washed with darks. They cost me £34 for 3 including delivery.

I think the new version of my box is the bright spark. love it to pieces.

hope this helps
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Posted by paulst, 22:18 12 November 2007

I bought the brightspark, and think its wonderful, I use it everyday and just couldnt manage without it, I think sometime in the future I will buy a larger lamp so I dont have to spend so much time in front of it. Just as a matter of interest, I bought mine from Boots and I think it cost about £130.
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 07:57 13 November 2007

I bought a smaller lamp, Paulst, that I use for less time than my Brightspark. It has LED bulbs that won't ever need replacing in the same way that those little fluorescents do. This on its own must make it more economical as a purchase!
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Posted by Amalthea, 10:42 13 November 2007

Do LED lights not burn out or what do you do if they do? Sorry for my ignorance, but I've also been looking at an LED portable light as a second (actually, third) light.
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Posted by paulst, 16:00 13 November 2007

Hi purplelvy, the reason I want a bigger light is, to have a bigger surface area of brightness, you never know, I might even convince my brain its Summer.
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Posted by Suzie, 19:39 13 November 2007

I have read the area is supposed to be of importance.
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Posted by puddleshy, 12:45 15 November 2007

I've just bought the Brightlight desk lamp - does anyone have any experience with this one. Please don't say anything negative!! lol
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Posted by Faerie9, 14:05 19 November 2007

I thought I'd post here instead of making a new topic:

I work from home a lot and sit at my computer a lot.

Am I right in thinking a Britespark or similar will be just right? I can have it on as I'm sitting here and it will just do it's thing?

Thanks :)
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Posted by Faerie9, 14:13 19 November 2007

Also it doesnt say if it's battery or mains operated..
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Posted by Me, 14:14 19 November 2007

Yes my little spring pixie.

Easy as that.

Me x
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Posted by Me, 14:19 19 November 2007

Mains operated.

I thought I had a bright spark, turns out ive got a superlite 3S. Love it though it was expensive 10 years ago. It has natural daylight bulbs 10,000 lux, handle and is a box big enough to use daily and yet portable.

Love it

Me x
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Posted by Faerie9, 14:25 19 November 2007

Yay!

Maybe I just go and get one now. I'm having serious trouble working! Thanks Me =)
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Posted by kaz_me, 15:01 19 November 2007

Ok... I've been investigating on Amazon for lights and there's 2 that I might be able to stretch to money wise... There's a Lumie Bodyclock Sunray and there's a SAD Light Therapy Pad. They're both the same price... Any reccommendations???
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Posted by Suzie, 15:04 19 November 2007

Is the body clock sun ray a lamp or a dawn simulator Kaz me?

I would recommend the britespark as a starting point for a lamp. I have one and I have used it next to my computer in work for the past couple of years. It's mains operated and popular at the lower end of the budget.... about 130.00
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Posted by kaz_me, 15:20 19 November 2007

These onoes are both £60 tho!! Lol
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Posted by Suzie, 15:22 19 November 2007

The lumie bodyclock sunray is a dawn simulator to be used for getting you up in the morning and helping you get to sleep at night.

Not sure about the other one hun, sound like a light box but needs to be about 10,000 lux to be of any use.
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Posted by kaz_me, 15:29 19 November 2007

Lol - thanks! Trying to figure out what would be more use to me now... a dawn simulator or a light box...
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Posted by paulst, 15:54 19 November 2007

hi, a lightbox would be best if you want lots of light. A dawn simulator is mainly used help you get up and sometimes to help you get to sleep. I have both and have never regretted the cost .


paul
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 17:31 19 November 2007

I use mine every day in the winter (well mid September to mid April). Only just got the dawn simulator this year and use that every day. Both great.
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Posted by Faerie9, 17:50 19 November 2007

I ordered my Brightspark today, am really looking forward to getting it. It's a bit of a 'gulp' forking out £115 but I am sure it will be worth it, and it's a small price to pay for my productivity and quality of life. Let's hope it works!
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Posted by Bagpuss, 18:19 19 November 2007

Hi everyone, I've been doing some research on light boxes too. I've been looking on Amazon, I'm thinking of spending around £100. Am I right in thinking that as long as the light is 10,000 lux, it might not matter which make I get? My dad says Philips have done a lot of research into flourescent lighting for sad. The official sad companies arrange a box for the light system and market and sell the fittings. Does anyone have a philips light box?

Kaz me, I was trying to decide between a light box and dawn simulator too. I've finally decided on a light box, but if you could stretch to £120 there's a dawn simulator and light box in one on Amazon, that looks great!
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Posted by Hello, 18:26 19 November 2007

Hello,
i'm totally new to this and found it really useful to read your comments as i too am a bit lost with all the choice. it looks like the brightspark is the thing to get - Faerie9, how have you found it so far?
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Posted by Faerie9, 18:56 19 November 2007

Hello hello :D
I only ordered it today, I'll give a review at the end of the week.

A few other folk have a britespark and have rated it well :)

The impression I get is that as long as it has the right rating (100000 lux i think) it's fine. The "which is right for me" tool on this site is quite good.

I didn't bother shopping around too much (which is very unlike me!) as everyone on this forum is so ace, so I thought I'd just give Lumie my business on that basis alone! That and their products do look very good and reasonably priced, of course!!
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Posted by paulst, 19:33 19 November 2007

Hi hello, welcome to the forum, many of us have lightboxes, the britespark seems one of the most popular because its so portable .there are that are just as good. Look forward to more of your posts soon.


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Posted by Cabbaged, 22:11 19 November 2007

Finding a 10,000 lux lightbox is only part of the equation...

The typical daily time needed in front of your lightbox will vary eg. The Brightspark requires 2-3 hours for me, while my Pharos Max requires 45 minutes to an hour.

The maximum distance at which the magic 10,000 lux figure is achieved varies. For example, my Brightspark is 30cm, while my Pharos Max is 80cm.

Space is another consideration. My Brightspark takes up about the space of three mugs on my computer desk, while my Pharos Max (on the stand) needs space for the feet that are about a foot apart.
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Posted by kaz_me, 22:16 19 November 2007

Quick question... how do you know when you've had enough of the light?
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Posted by Me, 22:20 19 November 2007

You know ive obviously got my SAD head on again. Been reading through the last 15 or so messages here and couldnt work out who LOL was.

Ive just burst into laughter. Ive just worked out that you're not swearing after all!

Oh deary dear.
Me x
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Posted by kaz_me, 22:21 19 November 2007

hahahaha (there you go... spelt it out for you...) :)
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Posted by paulst, 22:23 19 November 2007

At first you wont know, When you have been using your lightbox for a few days you might begin to notice a difference. Many people start with about 30mins a day and then slowly increase the time until they start to feel better. So really its just experience that will tell you when you have had enough, the instructions with your light should give you a rough guide, but we are all different.
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Posted by Me, 22:32 19 November 2007

Just think what I would be like without the light!

You will get an idea about how long to use the box and how far away to put it, in the lightbox instruction manual. Usually, the instructions state that you spend a little extra time in front of it for a number of days (3 days I think) when you first start, then when you are topped up, you can reduce slightly. I know when Ive had too much as I go alittle hyper - you might find the same.

Initially follow the instructions then, when you feel confident, follow your instincts.

You may also find that you might have to up the dose as the days get shorter.

Sounds like a complicated equation, but its not that bad.

LOL back to ya flower.

Me x
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Posted by inkie, 08:36 21 November 2007

i just received my litebook elite and it's great.
i only had lighttherapy last year in the hospital here in holland and had 3 big lightboxes all to myself. but this little one does the same trick for me. i can put it everywhere and take it with me. www.litebook.come. i got it from ebay and cost me incl. shipping and customs about 120 pounds.



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Posted by paulst, 16:07 21 November 2007

Brilliant, I really hope it helps you to have a better Winter, hope you keep in touch and let us know how you get on.
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 21:06 21 November 2007

I used to do an hour with my Bright spark, I do about half an hour with my golite
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Posted by inkie, 12:01 22 November 2007

yes, i use it 30 minutes am and 30 minutes early evening.
i like it short because it's hard to sit still for an hour for me.
today is the 2nd day and i had a really long and deep sleep last night. i usually wake up every 2-3 hours but now i woke up only once during the night and very short.
can it make such a difference already?
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Posted by puddleshy, 12:30 22 November 2007

My lamp is workigna treat - feel so much better :-)
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Posted by Faerie9, 12:30 22 November 2007

I just got my Brightspark!!!!! :D:D:D:D

It's so bright!!

Big grins already!

My other half isn't so happy though, he's kinda blinded by it... but I'm glad it's here, I have a good feeling about it!!!!!
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Posted by puddleshy, 12:31 22 November 2007

I've only been using it a week and notice a HUGE difference in my sleeping pattern and mood overall..
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Posted by kaz_me, 13:02 22 November 2007

Ooo Faerie!! That's excitin!! I'm having a bleh day today but your 4 smiley faces have made me smile a wee bit!
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 14:10 22 November 2007

It is possible for light therapy to work quickly. I felt better last winter within hours of arriving in Nice from the UK! I felt so well, so quickly!
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Posted by paulst, 15:59 22 November 2007

I wish I had time to use mine for longer , the instructions for my light says 90 mins is ideal,goodness, I would have to get up at 5am.
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Posted by Tinkerbell, 17:06 22 November 2007

I am a misery in the winter and want to get a light box. I have a toddler, work part time and am studying law, so as you imagine I don't have much time space or money. I would ideally like something quite portable for around £100 that doesn't take up much desk space and I don't have to use for longer than 30 mins or so as I don't get to sit still for long - any suggestions
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Posted by GarethROwen, 22:07 22 November 2007

I have suffered for a few years with SAD ... bought the light etc. but I AM OVERJOYED as I think it has gone. Reply and I may be able to help... I even have a light box that I may be giving away soon !!
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Posted by rachel, 11:49 29 November 2007

Hi All

I wish I had found this site before I bought my light box. I just received it yesterday and have so far only used it twice. I bought a sound, light and aroma therapy station to try and lift my spirits. It is LED.

Do you think this will help me as some people on here say that LED lights dont work the same??

I am new to the site today and have enjoyed reading all of your experiences and has made me realise that I am not alone.

Thanks
Rachel
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 12:31 29 November 2007

I use an LED lamp and a regular type. I find no difference, except that my regular type I need a longer treatment type.
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Posted by Summer, 12:49 29 November 2007

Gareth - Don't be so sure! I first experienced SAD around 15 years ago for a couple of winters. I was fine for around 10 years then it's returned with a vengence for the last two where I've also had to resort to the dreaded medication to see me through.
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Posted by paulst, 16:08 29 November 2007

HI rachael,welcome you are not alone, we understand how you feel and try and give as much support as we can. I hope you can keep posting and tell us how you get on.
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Posted by happy2b, 15:31 30 November 2007

I suffered from suspected SAD 6 years ago, my cure was to live overseas for 6 years in the sunshine, it worked a treat. Unfortunately I am now back in UK and suffering very badly, sounds like I need a light box ASAP. Limited budget too. No-one mentions electricity costs, assume nominal as effectively a large light bulb? Jersey P
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Posted by Me, 19:28 30 November 2007

Gareth, careful chucky. It takes three years of symptoms to diagnose SAD.

Hold on to that light box for a few years just to make sure you dont need it again chuck. Each SAD season can vary in intensity.

Glad to hear your feeling good, keep it up.

Me x

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