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cotambear
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Posted by cotambear, 17:45 2 December 2006

I have been treated for depression for about 10 years, and probably had it since my early 20`s (I am 45).

I have received antidepressants for the last 10 years and had counselling (which proved helpful for relationship stuff, but didn`t relieve the depression).

The anti depressants worked quite well in the early years. However they have only been partially succesful in the last 4 or so years. For example, I started dosulepin about 4 months ago after the citalopram stooped working. The dosulepin took about 6 weeks to `kick in`, worked for maybe 3-4 weeks, then the depressive symptoms reemerged about 5 weeks ago. I really crashed down about 2 weeks ago and started buproprion.

The crash down this time is the worst ever. I have spent 10 years getting my life sorted, gaining a professional qualification, and going in to business. I really felt extremely suicidal this time, and still have daily thoughts. I have been to my GP and convinced her to send me to a psychiatrist for assesment (local CMHT).

My view is this. I do not want to commit suicide, but the pain is crippling. I believe in life, and am a humanist. I believe I deserve an opportunity to have my illness analysed and the best possible treatment options offered.

I have worked in the medical services and fear that the doctor will make a minor recommendation and send me back to the GP - fob me off in other words.

I would like advice please on how to be taken on by the psychiatrist, and perhaps referred to a specialist in intractable depression. I want to form a friendly relationship with the psychiatrist, but I know from experience that the `squeaky wheel gets the grease` so I am prepared to make noise. I do not have a death wish, but if I am to die then I will go down fighting (ie having explored the treatment options).

Sorry if this is a bit heavy for a post, but I am in a very bad place.

Any advice would be appreciated, particularily from Joel who has had a momentous fight to get some treatment options.
Linda
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Posted by Linda, 08:27 3 December 2006

You say you started a new antidepressant several weeks ago, then added bupropion on top of it. Now you are experiencing suicidal thoughts. Please please listen to me, Cotambear -- those drugs can cause this. They have a track record of it. In fact if you look an the leaflets enclosed with the drugs, they should by law name suicidal ideation as a possible side effect.

A psychiatrist will not offer coming off the drugs as a possible solution. The very nature of the profession today is to treat mental illness with drugs. I've seen shrinks myself and can testify that this is really all they do. They also offered me electroconvulsive therapy, which I was shocked (no pun intended) is still legal in this day and age.

I'm aware of what you've said about my approach to things in other posts and you're welcome to make of this what you will. All I would ask you to do is have a look at the Antidepressant Info category I started, particularly the most recent post. There's a lot of info there from a variety of sources about these drugs, which you may not be aware of.

I feel for you and I truly wish you all the best. You have a lot to offer society, with the talents you have.

Linda.
cotambear
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Posted by cotambear, 10:21 3 December 2006

Thank you Linda, I know you think you mean the best, but it is very wrong to try and dissuade me from trying to get treatment, particularily in my fragile state.

We will resume our dialogue about the medical model at some point in the future, but it is not appropriate in a thread where someone is at a very low point.

I have come on here looking for a little moral support, and advice on how to approach the psychiatrist.
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Posted by planet, 11:57 3 December 2006

Hello
I have just discovered this site and I am very glad to have done so!
i am at my wits end, I am panicky, stressed and have very little resisitance to want to do anything. I am getting stressed out by the slightest little thing and my emotions are all over the place. I dont want to go to work, I just want to run away! HELP!!
Helen
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Posted by Helen, 21:28 3 December 2006

A psychiatrist will not offer coming off the drugs as a possible solution. The very nature of the profession today is to treat mental illness with drugs. I've seen shrinks myself and can testify that this is really all they do.
Linda.

Although when I saw a psych the first thing he did was to get me off meds, so this is maybe not true for all of them.
I think all you can do is to explain as clearly as you can how you feel right now and where you are at. I have found sometimes it helps if you make a list of all the points you want to say, or if you have written down something about how you are feeling, as the mind inevitably goes blank once you get into the GP appt and have 7.5 minutes which is not long enough for this type of thing at all.
I hope you are able to get the help and support you need
Take care

Posted by Seasonally Apathetic & Disillusioned, 22:40 3 December 2006

Cotambear

I don’t really know what to say to you. Most of what I would blurt out at the moment would be very unhelpful. However, following on from what Helen said, I would advise you simply to be honest – don’t exaggerate or underplay anything. Have a good think about what you feel will help you, and be realistic about what help is available. Don’t be afraid to accept any form of help offered. I rubbished the idea of having a CPN to talk to, because I was just scared, but in hindsight I think that I could have done with the support. Since medications are failing, perhaps you should try CBT and get the support of a CPN?

If you make things clear enough then you should be offered all of what is available. Sometimes you may meet some obstruction, which is unfortunate, and it will then be up to you to get proactive.

Perhaps you are experiencing extra difficulties from switching medication, and recently returning from Thailand? It is largely up to you to police adverse events from medication, so do be aware of the possibilities; I’ve been there, and I only realised it was venlafaxine’s fault because I was still deteriorating in summer – my doctors/SAD sceptics initially blamed my underlying condition. I myself have also crashed fairly dramatically after returning from Portugal a couple of times – I had to quit my jobs on both occasions.

Welcome Planet and Helen; You are all not alone orbiting the sun.

All the best, and make sure that you get the help that you deserve.

Joel x

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