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Posted by Anonymous, 20:02 11 November 2003

:cry: I was diagnosed with SAD about 6 years ago and I had been handling it quite well over the last few years but now I feel so alone and desperate. I don't know what to do. I live alone so nights can be very long and lonely and my partner (who lives 100 miles away) does not understand me and thinks I am just feeling sorry for myself. I think I have now reached the end of my tether!!!!!!
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Posted by oldhippy, 20:07 11 November 2003

Hi janine

Just pour your truble here on the forum we are all in the same boat, do you use a light box or something else?

Some swear on st johns wort and others on the light box, and then some because the like swearing (Joke) :D


Never let sad get to you no matter what it does, its your life not SAD's
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Posted by KIM JAMES, 20:19 11 November 2003

Because not many of my friends or family know much about it. I try and tell them but I am sure they think I am mad. I feel so angry!!!!!!!!!!! I just want to shout scream and cry but no one listens to me!!!!! I have been raped, sufffered 3 miscarridges, I have polycistic ovary syndrom and now the winters here again I am even more depressed. Sometimes I wonder why i bother!!!!! :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :? :? :? :? :x :x :x :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Posted by Julie in Sussex, 21:26 11 November 2003

Hi Janine ~ again I am sorry you had the need to seek us out, but am pleased for you that you found us. We're a funny old crew, all suffering from sad to varying degrees, and some suffering from sad+, a total heartache. But each one is here for the rest of us, you are no longer alone.

You are a very rare soul, you have actually had a GP diagnose your SAD. The majority of us here, including me, are self-diagnosed after years of winter despair. A lot of us seem to return to our GP's on an annual autumnal basis only to be fobbed off with antidepressants, again, no support, no advice, nothing. Now, the $64,000 question is why did he just diagnose you and fail to offer annual help. You should have been given reams of information on treatment and general self help. GPs baffle me.

As oldhippy asks, what have you done to get through the last 6 years, have you used a lightbox, St Johns Wort or antidepressants. If you have used those things, have you changed your routine, that could be the cause of the monster raising its ugly face again.

You will find all manner of help and advice if you dip into a good bulk of the posts on the forum. If you don't find what you are looking for, post again, ask and someone will get back to you I am sure. Good luck, Julie

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Posted by Anonymous, 22:02 11 November 2003

I was admitted to hospital 2 years on the trot cause I was so depressed and then one of the doctors mentioned SAD but no follow up help was offered I was basically discharged and told to get on with it. I looked into SAD and started to find some answers to why I feel like I do. I have not been using any treatments I have just been struggling through the winter and hoping that I make it in one piece!!!!! I sometimes doubt myself and wonder weather I do suffer from SAD or weather it is all in my head. Does that sound strange????? :? :? :? I have only just found this site so I am hoping to find some answers here
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Posted by oldhippy, 09:51 12 November 2003

Hi Janine


You sound like I was many years ago before I to heard of this thing called SAD. I was going round in circles, thinking I was a total loonie in the first degree :roll: considered myself ready for the men in white coats :twisted:

Was only till I was asked to perform a sorta post dairy of life major upsets and problems. They i could see the dam Winter time life was just hell, as many know in the forum I had relationship breakdowns during this time, had job problems, even left jobs because I could not cope.

Then i saw the light(O please light please :shock:) I started to take control over this son of a bitch. Im never letting it run my life no matter how hard it trys. Don't misunderstand me I still get depressed but these days in the Winter I snap out much faster. Only problem I seem to get is the dam sleep, Im a early riser, its inbuilt in me from many years of work. My body def does not want to be awake and I fight it most of the time, sometimes my head spins for the lack of sleep, yes getting 7 hrs a night and need more, but this is sad telling me "Hibernate you Sod" :mrgreen:

The forum is a god send, just to read you are not alone with sad, there are 1000's of us all in the same boat, some find there way to here some never know we exsist.

Sad sufferers really get a bad deal from some gov depts, Social services provide all sorts of wonderfull equipment to help the disabled and others, but ask them for a simple light box that can make a dam big diffrence to many of us :?:

Anyway welcome to the forum, but remember you are not alone with SAD

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Posted by Anonymous, 10:13 12 November 2003

Hi Janine

I am so sorry to read that you are feeling very low right now.

Like Julie my SAD is self-diagnosed.

I have experienced clinical depression since the age of 15, I am 31 now. When I was 25 I was so ill I became suicidal and ended up in hospital after having taken an overdose. My depression was diagnosed and I agreed to anti-depressant medication. The change in my emotional state was massive. The following winter I realized that slowly I was becoming depressed again and could not identify any reason why - hence my self-diagnosis of SAD.

I have found that a combination of light therapy, anti-depressants and healthy'ish eating making a huge difference to my winters now. I have learn't a lot over the preceding years about what does and does not work for me.

I can also relate to the isolation of living with SAD and being surrounded by friends, family and work colleagues who have no direct experience of the condition themselves. I guess it is important to find people who are prepared to listen and be empathic, like the guys on this forum. It is an excellent resource :lol:


Best Wishes
Carlos
Bright One
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Posted by Bright One, 10:50 12 November 2003

Hi Janine,

Nice to 'see' you've found us. Don't just fight your way through. Get some more information and some treatment. And you are not alone!

www.sadbox.info

www.sada.org.uk

If you need any proof of the power of the lightbox Julie is a shining example of the impact a good routine of lightbox use. Anyone who has been on the forum for the last couple of weeks could testify that whilst she is always lovely she is so chatty, informative, funny and alive when she's using her lightbox. When she isn't using it I miss her. Even when she was posting she wasn't herself and if it makes that much difference I'd say it's well worth trying one.

Hope everyone is well

Bright One

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Posted by Anonymous, 13:46 12 November 2003

Hi Janine, I thought I was imagining the SAD over many years until I got weird joint pain this year - I don't think you can imagine this, as it is sore to touch.

As well as lightbox and antidepressants, I find reading self help books about depression comforting. Most recent I read was 'Depressive Illness - The Curse of the Strong' where the author says only the best people get depressed, cos they care too much and try too hard and let others put on them. The also tend to judge success by how others see them and are vey sensitive to criticism (well that last bit is me!)

Healthy peole never really think you are really 'ill' if you are depressed in my experience. I tell those who will listen that depression is a physical illness, and if a lumbr puncutre was perfomred on a depressed person the chemical readings would not be normal. Hnece it is not all in your head - but some people do not even beleive medical fact I'm afraid. My own mum recently said to me that I was 'only' suffering from 'mental illness' - cheers mother...

Sorry if this doesn't sound reassuring, but I do beleive that only the best and most sensitive and creative peole suffer this way - cos others are often too weak, lazy or stupid to let things get to them anyway.

Have I gone too far with this - sorry.

Keep smiling all!!

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Posted by Anonymous, 13:50 12 November 2003

Kim,
I am not sure if you have had a reply yet? Sorry to hear that you have had a hard time - makes me feel pathetic with my daft old worries. Hang in there girl, you have us now and we will not tell you that you have no reason to feel like this. I always fear that when the winter ends I'll still be depressed and it will last forever this time, but thankfully I am always proved wrong.

Keep smiling!

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Posted by Anonymous, 13:52 12 November 2003

PS - the above two message are from Dawn
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Posted by calm, 19:37 12 November 2003

KIM
Just seen your message.
It's good that you've found this funny old forum.
Talk, scream, cry, right here.
You'll be with friends
calm
Julie in Sussex
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Posted by Julie in Sussex, 21:22 12 November 2003

Hi Janine, Amy, oldhippy (what is your first name?!), Kim, Carlos, Dawn and Calm.

Janine ~ am horrified that you were just dumped by the Drs who initially cared for you, the state of the care in mental health in this country stinks. Frankly you will get better care on this forum, sorry, but, sad isn’t it.

Kim ~ empathise totally with you regarding people saying you are ‘just depressed’. Words don’t actually often fail me I have to say, but, words fail me. Be comforted, I too (as have many others) have found it impossible to describe sad, depression and panic, and to feel that I am completely understood, I always feel that the listener is saying to themselves, “OMG she’s a wacky woman”. Unfortunately, it takes another soul on this same plateau to listen and actually hear and feel what you say. I am so sorry that even beyond SAD life is so damn hard. If maybe you get to grips with SAD, you might then have the personal power at your disposal to start to ‘cope’ with the rest of your life. All good wishes.

Oldhippy, you truly are a light on our daily forum horizon!

Carlos, sounds as though you have worked it all out yourself and have got your life, depression and sad compartmentalised and most successfully managed. That’s not to say it all ‘just goes away’, as I too have found, it just doesn’t, but being in a position to ‘cope’ I sometimes consider to be a luxury to me.

Amy thank you for the Lightbox Queen Boost! You’re a sweetie, always right in there, geeing us all up, giving us the will to get off our butts, stop eating napping and procrastinating and go for it!! Your resilience and bounce-back quality, along with your mental energy are enviable. You also always manage to tell it just the way it is, which is great for the rest of us. I was new to lightboxing last year and followed the operating instructions to the letter, but this year being ‘an old hand’ I got complacent and a bit cocky and snatched light whenever for whatever length of time………IT DOESN’T WORK! Routine and timing are of the essence, I cannot say that loudly enough.

Absolutely feel the same way as Dawn regarding the fact that she feels that SAD and depressive bods are of another more special level when it comes to thought, word and deed. There is a power of understanding, a depth of being in us that makes other apparently more ‘normal’ people seem rather wishy-washy and shallow.

Hang on in there everyone and keep coming back. Julie
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Posted by Bright One, 10:17 13 November 2003

Hi everyone...

I'm trying to keep up with everyone and have actually resorted to 'old technology' i.e. a pen and paper to jot down my thoughts when I'm reading your posts.

In my experience no one (apart from my husband) really understands how awful SAD is... (apart from all of you!)
I did have symptoms when I was younger but they were mostly fatigue and bad sleep patterns (way too much of the stuff)- when I lived with my parents. But it wasn't recognised and, after all, don't all teenagers sleep until lunch time.

Depression robs you of so much. It steals away self confidence. But no one (except mr) has ever seen me depressed.

I have always been very good at hiding my feelings. I put it down to stuff that was happening at home when I was in my teens. My brother was messing up at school and there was all kind of hassle and stress for my parents (and my brother)....
and being a sensitive soul I cried myself to sleep nearly every night for about 2 years. No one knew.

I was a wonderful teenager. I did all my school and college work. I have 9 gcses, 4 a-levels (and a degree), I was polite, helpful, only came in after the agreed time about twice. And all the time I was hurting because the people I loved most were having problems and I couldn't fix them.

I learned to put on a happy face. I remember a music box- a fisher price wind up thing- that I had when I was small and it had the tune (which I now know came from The King and I) "Whenever I feel afraid, I hold my head erect and whistle a happy tune so no one will suspect I'm afraid"
I think I'm still whistling!
I should really be and actor. I can put on the front and no one knows that I don't want to be there, that my insides are churning and I feel sick. I am such a good laugh and great company.


Anyway, I've rambled, the whole point I was trying to make was simply that people think I am too strong, too sane and too logical to be depressed. The truth is I'm too stubborn. Too determined that they won't see that side of me - mostly because it's not fair, it's my problem why burden anyone else?

Carlos, who is the book, "Depressive illness - the curse of the strong", by?
I would very much like to read it.

Just giving myself a morning therapy session... unfortunately for you lot you are my chosen audience.
see you soon

Bright One
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Posted by oldhippy, 14:33 13 November 2003

Yep them mornings when the sun does not want to rasie a smile or give us anything are days we all hate in the Winter. The evil thoughts that rediuce us to exclusion and maddness :twisted:



Like my self wake up :shock: look at myself in the mirror and think I see the something the local gov office have reduced to a demanted fool and who is that looking there at me :?:


Look at my hair and think its time it was cut and remove the last sign of independence from the main stream. :mrgreen:

Feel parnoid that they are out there waiting to get me :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Then again I think *hit this its SAD trying his ugly hand at trying to reclaim my body again :lol: :lol:

Life is a right Bitch but with SAD its a bigger Bitch, when the depression and everything else with sad arives to great the Winter like Stanley and Livingstone I try now to make sure the good times always outweigh the bad time of SAD (hey did I say good)

Like in a relationship work towards the good times, let them rock.

The Human mind is a wonderfull thing and getting controll of it during the Winter is the thing to do on my part. like you know that fav little record you have? play it remember the times that brought pleasure and kick SAD where it belongs.....
http://www.taterhollow.com/GIFS/sun.gif
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Posted by Donna, 19:50 13 November 2003

Evening,
we are all here to express ourselves at ease. There is no embarrisment here.
We all understand and like to help :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Hope this gives some comfort :D :D :D

Love to all

Donna
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Posted by dawn mimnagh, 00:55 14 November 2003

Hi All,
Bright One - it was me not Carlos that mentioned the book - it is by Dr Tim Cantopher. It is not about SAD and only mentions it in passing, but is about depressive illness brought on by stress. (Which I think SAD is intitially). Anyway it is easy reading and I got through it in a day. As part of my SAD I crave reading this stuff (I know I am no longer depressed when it no longer interests me). Any other good relevant books out there anyone?

Keep smiling
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Posted by Bright One, 09:24 14 November 2003

Hi Dawn,

Sorry about that. I think I've sussed who everyone is but sometimes I lose track (scatty SADdo that I am!)

I was just very interested in the theory that it is actually the strong people i.e. the people who try to deal with everything and shoulder a bit of everyone's grief that struggle with depression... in my own personal world theory it's because they see something and they want to fix it but it is out of their power.

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