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abrupt stopping of citalopram?!?

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Posted by anna, 22:53 27 December 2005

has anyone ever done this?

i ran out of tablets 2 days ago, and being xmas theres no way i could just pop into the docs for some more, even as an emergency patient, seeing as im at home from uni at the mo.

ughhh i feel soooo nausious at the moment, have done all day. and stupid headache and stuff. i cant concentrate at all!!!

has anyone else had this???
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Posted by Julie in Sussex, 23:19 27 December 2005

Oh dear Anna, I do feel for you as I have always felt terrible coming off anti depressants in a controlled slowly-slowly-catchy-monkey way, let alone abruptly as you have done in the last couple of days.

Any chance you can see the family Doc despite the fact that you are not registered there at present? Only alternative I suppose is a trip to A&E. Or, do you have any friends/family on the same meds, maybe they could stop the gap for you? I don't suppose you have your repeat prescription slip with you, so that you can prove to your family Doc or A&E that this is what you take.

I am so sorry, life is hard enough anyway. And this is so easily done with the hype of Christmas, one gets sucked in even when one is desperately reluctant. Bummer.
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Posted by siddy, 07:15 28 December 2005

Anna

you can go to any gp surgery as a temporary patient if you are away from your registered g.p. They will ask you for details of your gp, current address and sign a form that only takes two minutes to do.

If you are staying at your parents till after new year don't leave it that long without meds
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Posted by anna, 17:14 18 January 2006

hey guys!

i managed to get in with the docters when it opened (my old docters) as a temporary patient and got my meds, but it still knocked me about a bit.

One question i have is if anyone who takes citalopram suffers from short term memory loss?

i have been forgetting so much over the last few months and its starting to upset me and make me angry. I just forgot my first driving lesson, i mean how can you do that??????

At luncthime my mom phoned me to ask how my exam went, and said she'd ring to ask how the lesson went and wished me good luck, i had temporarily forgotten about the driving lesson. within 2 minutes it was out of my head. at 4.45 i was in the bath listening to the radio when someone said somthnig about driving.then it came to me... 4.30 was the time for my driving lesson and not only that but id had a drink of malibu and coke to celebrate my exam this afternoon....

HOw can i forget things this easily? its been happening alot recently and i hate it. Somthing isnt in my mind for a minute and then its gone forever. i even had notes left on my diary and on a peice of paper so i wouldnt forget and i still managed it. :cry:
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Posted by paulst, 19:48 18 January 2006

Hi anna, I take citalopram and also suffer from a poor memory. I havent thought a lot about it and thought it was just one of the symptoms of sad. It would be interesting to see if other citalopram users have the same problem as us. I do suffer from a poor memory and find its worse in winter. Perhaps its a combination of sad and the tablets. :? paul
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Posted by Linda, 21:09 19 January 2006

Hi guys,

Yep, I have the same problem. I'm on 30mg citalopram now. And yes I think the combination of that and the SAD can really whack your cognitive functioning. It's hard, isn't it; I simply couldn't survive being off the meds, but they come with their own problems. (Other side effects I get are a general foggy brain, emotional "flatness" -- neither happy or sad, just always stuck in the middle, fatigue, and sexual dysfunction. Nice little concoction but could be worse I guess.) I wonder if there's a way you can help yourself to remember things. I keep a calendar by my phone and I write everything on it and try to remember to check it. When I was teaching I wrote everything in my planner; it was filled more with notes to myself about meetings with students, or what I needed to do during my "frees," than lesson plans themselves. My husband uses a personal organiser. Anything you usually keep to hand is probably a good idea for a place to store information. I would probably even write it on my hand if it was important enough and I thought I might forget.
Hang in there Anna and Paul. We're in this together. Keep sharing.
Linda :)
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Posted by anna, 21:41 19 January 2006

yeh, i have 2 calendars in my room, one is a university poster with big dates on and a list of what im doing in practical estate skills each week (i have 1 day a week working outdoors) and your usual one for appointments deadlines and suchforth, i also have a notice board i use to put up important peices of paper like hospital cards, prescriptions, docter info etc and i have an organiser which i write down appointments and all of my lectures down in.

yet i still forget things. it sucks big time, however im leaving a post it noe on m tv so that when i wake up in the morning i shall remember my driving lesson instantly. ive also set an alarm to go off 15 mins before on my phone and i have a friend phoning me to remind me tonight and my moms ringing about an hour before to remind me!

hoepfully this time i shant forget!!!!
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Posted by paulst, 16:03 20 January 2006

You are right about the lack of emotion, I just feel like im in neutral, neither happy nor sad :? But at least we have the spring to look forward to, I just wish it would hurry :) paul
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Posted by Dawn, 12:33 4 February 2008

Hi guys, im back on my 20mg citalopram and the doctor said i should never have weaned myself off them without his advice. I was gobsmacked to read your post paulst about lack of emotion.When i stopped i felt exactly the same. Roll on the summer i say.By the way, could anyone tell me is citalopram prescribed mostly for s.a.d. sufferers? thanx. Dawn
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 13:42 4 February 2008

There seems to be a variety of things prescribed, Citalopram, Escitalopram, Prozac come to mind, but there are many more given. I think it depends on if the sufferer has any other conditions.
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Posted by aaron, 04:52 6 February 2008

Although some of what I experience is seasonally related, I didn't present my feelings as being SAD related when I started Cit. at beginning of November last year.

After two months of successful treatment, my doctor and I discussed altering the dose but he suggested staying with 20mgs as it had worked.

I'm glad for that advice and would suggest if you get on well with your doc that you discuss with him/her or at least write to him/her and say what you're doing or planning to do.
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Posted by Dawn, 19:31 10 February 2008

Can anyone tell me if thier libido has been affected by citalopram
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Posted by Linda, 20:15 10 February 2008

Sexual dysfunction is a common side effect of all SSRIs. Mine was drug-induced and it did not go away when I came off the drug, which was almost 2 years ago. I currently take some herbs which help a little, but I seriously wonder if I have received some permanent damage. Makes a marriage difficult at times.
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Posted by aaron, 20:56 10 February 2008

My libido increased - but partly because Citalopram had the physiological effect of warming my body up!
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Posted by Dawn, 21:07 11 February 2008

Well aaron and linda u both give me different feedback. I just dont know what to do because ny marriage is affected trenendously.
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 22:18 11 February 2008

SSRI's put me right off, but it's only temporary, so we manage. When spring comes again the effect is reversed.
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 23:06 11 February 2008

Just to add, my dh would rather have a civil wife!
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Posted by Linda, 07:16 12 February 2008

If you want to carry on down the antidepressant route, you can try taking a herb called ginkgo biloba. It ameliorated the sexual dysfunction to an extent while I was on the drug. It hasn't helped as much since I've been off the drug. My mistake was withdrawing from the med too quickly; when you come off yours make sure you do a slow taper so your body can adjust to the changes.

Hope this helps.
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Posted by Dawn, 19:17 12 February 2008

Was talking to a friend today who had been on cit for 10yrs. She takes ginseng with cit to balance out. She hasnt lost her libido she says. Im just tinking, would it work having chemicals and herbs?
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 19:46 12 February 2008

I know that some herbs (I think St John's Wort ) aren't recommended with antidepressants. I found a thing on the internet once which checked for drug interactions and also interactions with herbal products.

http://www.drugdigest.org/DD/Interaction/ChooseDrugs/1,4109,,00.html
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Posted by Linda, 20:20 12 February 2008

St. John's wort is one of the rare herbs that should not be taken with an SSRI, as it is itself a mild SSRI. Taking both can lead to serotonin syndrome, a life-threatening condition.

Ginkgo and ginseng will not interfere with an SSRI. There's an Ayurvedic herb you could also try, called ashwagandha. Solgar is one company who make it, and I take it along with ginkgo. As well as helping with sexual dysfunction, it's an adaptogen, meaning that it helps correct existing imbalances in the biochemistry. There are a few other herbs that have "aphrodisiac" properties, though, which in themselves are not necessarily safe. One that I know of is called yohimbe. (For a brief time I belonged to a discussion board for people like me whose sexual dysfunction did not go away after SSRI use, and they were trying everything under the sun, including -- staggeringly -- going on another antidepressant.)

In the long run I think 10 years on an antidepressant is far more dangerous than most any herb you could take, but that's another discussion.
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Posted by Dawn, 20:35 12 February 2008

Thanks for your feedback. Dawn
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Posted by Dawn, 08:39 27 February 2008

Hi there, although i was prescribed citalopram for anxiety and panic attacks, im sure more than ever now that i also have sad. Looking back on the last 5 months or so ive become a hermit. Wanting to come in from work and just close down the world by shutting the blinds(even when its light) and just stay in my pjs. These last few days the mornings are getting lighter and i find myself up at 6am even on my days off more happier and a bit more energy. I must admit i do hate the winter but these last few days my energy and my personality has been lifted.I find myself slleeping better and i dont have as many crazy dreams anymore. Dawn.
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Posted by Linda, 20:26 27 February 2008

I'm glad to hear you're feeling better, that's nice news. Thanks for letting us know. If you think your problem is definitely worse in the winter then enjoy the remission but make sure you put plans in place to head off troubles before next winter. Have you looked at your diet? Sometimes eating healthy food and taking supplements like fish oil and magnesium can work wonders.
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Posted by Dawn, 16:38 28 February 2008

Thanks Linda, have a very healthy diet, love my fruit n veg and very rarely eat junk food but will consider fish oil and magnesium. I do eat alot of oily fish.Excuse my ignorance but what benefit does magnesium have? thanx. Dawn
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Posted by Linda, 08:00 29 February 2008

Too many to list. It's vital to the body and almost everyone is deficient in it. A couple of functions are regulating heart rhythm and working in synergy with calcium to give you good bones. Have a Google and you will see :)
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Posted by Dawn, 18:46 29 February 2008

Will do thanx.
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Posted by faye, 21:20 26 March 2008

I was presribed citalopram for I suffer from bulima. I have been om them for about a year now. I have just stopped taken them the last 2 weeks. but I am staring to feel funny. I keep getting nite cramps and head feels all light and eyes finding it hard to focus. is this normal for stopping like I have???
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Posted by Linda, 18:25 30 March 2008

Yes. You need to go back on this drug and then taper it appropriately or you will continue to experience withdrawal symptoms.
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Posted by Jen, 23:18 5 December 2008

Hi, I've been on 20mg citalopram for SAD for 2 years now, but i've been finding my short term memory is getting really bad. it doesn't happen all the time, sort of in cycles, i'll have weeks were i will literally not be able to remember names of places and people if it's not someone/thing i've talked about regularly.

The pills have really really helped me and it'd definitly worth it considering how crappy i was feeling before i was on them, but i was wondering whether it's possible for sad symptoms to gradually decrease over time, or am i gonna be stuck with this for life? (i'm only 21!)

Also has any been able to replace taking drugs with light therapy? is it as good as people say? it's a lot of money to invest in getting one :s thanks, jen.
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 15:26 7 December 2008

Medication and light therapy are two of the weapons in my armoury for my war against SAD! I wouldn't consider replacing one with the other.

Regarding memory...I think I blame the condition as much as the treatment. Ginkyo Biloba is supposed to help.
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Posted by Amalthea, 20:29 7 December 2008

Memory loss is often a symptom of poor sleep. Perhaps you should be evaluated by a sleep specialist. Could the medicine be disrupting your sleep? Your doctor could help you.

I use light therapy and I've bought two lightboxes. I also have a dawn simulator. It is an expense, but I've found it necessary and I think of it as I would a medical therapy: It's a necessity for my well-being.
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Posted by chesh, 09:37 9 December 2008

You can get an emergency prescription at any chemist for a LIMITED ammount of the medication
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Posted by Donna, 03:13 4 January 2009

Hi Anna,
You should never just all of a sudden stop taking any anti-depressants or anti-anxiety medicines as doing this could result in side effects that may and could be serious. I learned this the hard way as I had stopped taking one of my anti-depressants and I kept getting these electrical impulse twitches which kind of scared me and get this, I was seeing a pyschiatrist at the time and he never told me this.

You should start feeling better after you start taking them again though.

Donna (USA)
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Posted by Ambrose, 17:55 6 May 2009

My doctor told me to stop the 20mg citalopram straight away and start the 10mg.
Everything went alright till yesterday (12 days till I started the 10mg). Then, yesterday evening I had a 10 min slight anxiety attack and at least a full hour of memories full of frustration. I am having violent thoughts and this morning, when I decided to contact my doctor, I used a swear word when talking to the receptionist because of her incapability to grasp that I needed good quality help now instead of accepting the usual 'go and beg tomorrow morning and she'll give you a 3 min meeting'.
I don't know what to do with myself. The care is abysmal in England just when I need good quality support and a walk-in see-you straight away doctor surgery.
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Posted by "A", 01:17 19 February 2010

Has anybody suffered from skin irritation after coming straight off citalopram. I stopped taking the meds about a month ago after being on citalopram for over 2years - it seemed a good idea at the time - still not sleeping well feel absent all the time and very low and suffering from awful mood swings?
signed "A"
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Posted by Bagpuss, 08:24 23 February 2010

I've been on 10mg of Citalopram since Christmas. It's a low dose but I didn't want to go any higher in case it was harder, I'm scared of coming off them, sounds like there are some nasty withdrawal symptoms. Has anyone come off them ok without any withdrawal or just minor symptoms? I'm hoping to come off them in April.

Regarding memory, I have the same problems. I thought it was SAD not the med, but could be a combination of both. Also re sexual dysfunction, I've lost my libido completely on these meds, but I always do more in winter anyway. Thanks for the ginko tip Linda, I will try them.
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Posted by Migiman, 16:56 21 August 2011

Thank you for your posts. I've been on Citalopram for more than a year and although it has really improved my mood, my short term memory is now terrible.
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Posted by Jann, 14:16 16 October 2011

been on citalopram for nearly 4 months, have NO sex drive at all but use to be sex mad b4, have decided to just stop takin them and pay the cons...wish me luck,,foul moods,violent,angry,aggression towards all again...here i come
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Posted by Brad G. , 11:16 24 November 2011

I think that reduced libido might push you deeper into a depression, I would stop taking it if that were the case, would lookout for an alternative that's easier on the sex drive...
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Posted by Chickendinna, 04:14 30 November 2011

I took celexa for about 2 years and decided to taper myself off in order to not be dependent on drugs for the rest of my life (I'm 23). I did research & did the proper amount of dosing, i.e..20 mg/day down to 20mg/every other day, then 10mg/every other day. Each interval was at least two weeks. Then I stopped completely. When i first started the drug i felt like a zombie-no emotions whatsoever & decreased sex drive, but anxiety went away, depression weakened but I still felt depressed at times. Never anxious. Being a young adult I would occasionally drink while I was on the meds which would usually result in a giant emotional mess if I had more than 3 drinks. Now that I've stopped the drug I haven't had many withdrawal symptoms at all, or maybe they just are too minor to really notice. I'm feeling slightly depressed but it could be due to the gloomy weather. My sex drive increased immediately. I feel more like myself. In the past six months I've been working out 3-5 times a week. I find throwing your negative emotions into physical exercise can help with internal struggles. In fact, often times after going into a workout angry I come out & finds anger was about something trivial or unnecessary. It also gives me more energy and in general I'm happier with myself. I would strongly suggest trying this if you're still suffering when taking the drug.
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Posted by MarkMark, 14:34 13 January 2012

Hi i stumbled across this website since citalopram was making me not care about much, like a few of you are mentioning and i came across a medical term 'SSRI-induced apathy' which can happen when the dose of the SSRI is too high, and can be corrected by reducing the dose so depression/anxiety is controlled and motivation improves. I'm saying this since a few of you have commented you feel 'flat' and this could be why.If you could spread this knowledge it can help improve the reputation of SSRI's. Here's a little proof.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15330228

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