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Donna
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Posted by Donna, 18:47 17 December 2007

I just needed to share something with you guys if I may?.... Recently I have not run as much as usual due to my Sad and not feeling like going out. Running keeps me sane and keeps my weight under control which keeps me happy! Since going to the gym just over a week ago, I have gained nearly half a stone!!!! I have been thinking this isn't right! This is too much! After lots of researching I have found my answer. I have been put on 2 steroid inhalers recently due to my exercise induced asthma as I had an asthma attack whilst running hard. I have been taking them correctly with not forgetting them for about 3-4 weeks now and have got a puffy face! The research states that these inhalers increase your appetite and give you a puffy face too and you can gain about 5 pounds very quickly. Ok so now I have the answer but now I know I need to work extra hard this winter to make myself run more regularly to combat the extra weight gain. I also find it difficult when I have SAD to go out and exercise anyway so this is going to be very difficult for me indeed but I really don't want to put on too much weight. Does anyone else find they have similar problems each winter??? Help meeeeeee!!!!!!
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Posted by Amalthea, 23:26 17 December 2007

I have asthma... exercise, allergy-induced... you name it.

I know prednisone, an oral steroid makes you gain weight... but I never heard that an inhaled steroid makes you gain weight. What meds are you talking about, specifically?

Crud, that means that when I put on weight and I'm needing to use my inhalers more often, that means I'm going to gain more weight... Bad cycle. I would like to know more.
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 08:17 18 December 2007

I understood that it was only oral steroids that make you gain weight. That is why my dd was given steroid inhaler the health professional said.
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Posted by Bagpuss, 09:42 18 December 2007

I have asthma too and don't use my steroid inhalors as often as I should. Someone once told me that she thought hers made her put on weight, scary if it's true. Donna, I know how you feel. I've definitely put on weight over the last few weeks, I just can't face exercising at the moment, it's so hard to get the motivation and drag myself to the gym.
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Posted by Amalthea, 10:10 18 December 2007

Found some info:

http://www.asthma.ca/adults/treatment/inhaledSteroids.php

From the article:
Inhaled corticosteroids are the most effective prescribed medication for most patients with asthma. Inhaled corticosteroids at the dose they are currently recommending for asthma have not been shown to cause weak bones, growth suppression, weight gain and cataracts.

Taking inhaled steroids can have a few side effects, but they are generally not serious. They include:

Hoarse voice
Sore throat
Mild throat infection (thrush)
You can minimize these side effects by rinsing your mouth after every dose of inhaled steroids and by using a spacer device with a pressurized MDI (pMDI).
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Posted by Amalthea, 10:27 18 December 2007

I don't want to come across as preachy, but please take care of yourself if you have asthma... and learn your warning signs of an attack so you can be pro-active and not end up in the hospital.

I had a doctor who taught me about "bronchiospasms" and really explained everything to me when I was a very small child. I knew my warning signs of an attack. They're easy enough to ignore, and that can be dangerous. When I was 8 years old or so, I had a severe attack that put me in the hospital, in and out of consciousness where my brain was so starved of oxygen, the doctors told mom that if I lived, I would probably have brain damage.

Please, take good care of yourselves and learn your symptoms. For instance, for me, a tickle under the chin means I'm in for a really bad attack. On cold days when my lungs burn, I tuck my hand into a loose fist and breath in and out of my fist (closest to my thumb, so you can picture it) slowly to warm the air I breathe. Know your triggers, too (exercise, cold weather, emotional stress, allergies, cigarette smoke, respiratory infections and colds)...

Again, sorry so preachy. I just feel strongly how potentially dangerous it can be if you ignore your symptoms!

PS - right now, I'm on prednisone because I've got a respiratory infection, so I am probably going to gain some water weight (ick!) and sometimes food cravings. Oral steroids can cause weight gain and bloating.

I noticed this morning, though, that I slept very deeply last night and of course the steroid gives you energy. I wouldn't recommend anyone go on steroids just to sleep better and have energy (because of serious health risks associated with steroids), but it does make me curious about why I do sleep so deeply while on steroids, despite having SAD.
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Posted by JeanneinCanada, 18:02 18 December 2007

Steroids, the type you take are usually corticosteroids (synthetic cortisol). Cortisol is an energy hormone from your adrenals, boosting your cortisol levels promotes energy and healthier functioning adrenals boost you in other ways like circadian rhythm, temp. regulation.

I take the natural route via natural adrenal glands in supp form. I've been on them a few years, the first things I noticed were more energy, better mood, then more slowly my temp. came up and regulated better (very faulty w/ FM, then SAD really does it in), my sleep disorder is mostly healed too. This took the longest, but I only have sleep troubles for the worst of my SAD cycle. I just take a bit of (rare) clonazepam to get me over the roughest patches now.


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Posted by Donna, 18:27 18 December 2007

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/222431/are_your_asthma_medicines_causing_weight.html

Hi Guys!
The above website is what I found (not sure how genuine it is!)The reason I was looking for this info in the first place was because I have put on about half a stone and become puffy around my face within only 1 and a half weeks! I know this isn't right especially for me but saying that, I do have a kidney disease and I do go up and down within one day to the next due to fluid but still this is alot in such a short time. I just knew something didn't add up because one can get to know their bodies very well and know when something doesn't add up!

Anyway, I will try to run again later but and really tired as I didn't sleep well and and was up at 6am for work (boo-hoo!!) Hope you are coping well?
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Posted by Donna, 18:31 18 December 2007

Thank you for your info guys and yes I have to say, I only thought it was oral steroids that contributed to weight gain but now I am not so sure???? Sometimes in medicine, we don't have all the answers and we are all different. That I have found out working as a nurse for 12 years, believe me lol!!!
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Posted by Bagpuss, 21:47 18 December 2007

Amalthea, thanks for your concern :-) I'm lucky enough to have mild asthma, so usually just get wheezy and don't have attacks (touch wood!). Sounds like yours is more severe, that must have been such a scary experience for you in your childhood. I hope you have it under control now xx
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Posted by Donna, 00:06 19 December 2007

Mine was mild for years until recently! I just had wheezing and a cough but never a tight chest until I ran very hard for an hour with my bad asthmatic cough and I had my first attack which was scary indeed!!! Not trying to scare you here and I am sure mist people wouldn't experience this but I also think it was due to a week long virus too??? Always take your Ventolin inhaler with you is my advice.
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Posted by Bagpuss, 09:42 19 December 2007

Donna, that's scary. I always take my ventolin inhalor with me, I just forget to take my preventor. It's the same with me, my asthma is brought on by running, especially in the cold weather. I think the contrast between the cold outside and the warm indoors makes it worse too. My asthma definitely gets worse with a cold/ virus as well.
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Posted by Amalthea, 10:35 19 December 2007

I have such a hard time getting rid of colds/respiratory infections. I've got one right now, and I have to get on the mend by Monday.

I have to get over it because otherwise, I'm not sure I can go home for Christmas. My mother has six cats, and I'm awfully allergic. I don't think she'll understand if I tell her I am not coming home for Christmas.
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Posted by Bagpuss, 11:35 19 December 2007

Poor you Amalthea, that's the last thing you need at this time of year. These things make you feel so tired and run down don't they? I've just recovered from a cold/virus thing. Really hope you feel better soon and that you make it home for Christmas. Did you say 6 cats?!!! Think that would make me allergic too.
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Posted by Stained Glass Lady, 11:58 19 December 2007

Amalthea get better soon Christmas is a stressful enough time and you don't need to be sick take care.
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Posted by Donna, 13:05 19 December 2007

Yes Amalthea, take it easy and hope you get better soon. Ihave a friend who gets very ill with her asthma and ends up in hospital alot also she gets chest infections too. I feel for her because it really knocks her back for a while.
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Posted by Amalthea, 01:55 20 December 2007

It was scary for a little bit there, coughing so much I couldn't catch my breath. The prednisone is getting me through, though. I also have to drink a lot of water, which I'm not good at doing! Otherwise, the dry air at work makes me tons worse!
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Posted by Beverley, 09:58 13 March 2009

Hi you guys. I have just returned from a holiday and in two weeks I have put on 12 lbs. I am so depressed. Just before I went away the asthma nurse put me on 48 mls Oxis and four puffs of my preventer per day as I was getting a lot of mucus with a cough. Oh yes, I am glad to say those symptoms are much better, but at what cost! I have just found this site and although not much consolation I'm glad its not just me. At the surgery they tell me that these particular steroids do not cause weight gain, but honestly, you have to eat over 3000 calories extra per day to put on a pound. Well honestly, I have just been to Los Gigantes in Tenerife and I have walked up and down steps and hills and I did not eat at all to excess. I know this is a SAD site, and I too loathe the darkness, but hey, Spring is coming and that's the only thing that's keeping me going today!!
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Posted by Priya, 12:52 10 April 2009

Amalthea, dont get scared .....Try to keep ur mind calm and relaxed..Try to drink hot water,this might help you to feel better..Have faith in god,Hope you get well soon
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Posted by Amalthea, 23:12 12 April 2009

Priya, you're right. I did have 2 rounds of bronchitis since my last post, but I am well again. I think the doctor realized the severity of my illness.

The first time, I called my primary care physician because I was coughing up a bit of blood. It was lung irritation. He agreed to give me prednisone to get through it.

Then, I made an appointment with the allergist, who I hadn't seen in a year to let him know what happened. The allergist changed my maintenance inhaler to Symbicort (I'd tried many others before!)

I had already been starting to get sick when I got put on the Symbicort - I'd been fighting a cold for about a week. The Symbicort kept me from getting sick as quickly, but I still got sick (forsythias started to bloom - they get me every year!)

I got sick over a weekend, again. Saturday, I had to call the allergist because I couldn't breathe when I woke up in the morning. I asked him to help me with my sinuses. He added Astelin to my nasal sprays and told me how to increase my mucinex (guaifenessin).

On Sunday, I almost had to go to the ER because things were progressing so quickly - I had that "brick in my chest" feeling again. I had to call again (so frustrating!)

I got put on prednisone.

A few days later, I went to the pharmacy and asked, "I'm doing everything to clear up this stuffy nose and it just won't quit!" The pharmacist asked what I was doing -- turns out, the mentholated cough drops, the Vick's menthol gel, and the hot showers were causing a "rebound effect" by opening up my blood vessels and increasing congestion!

The pharmacist suggested I use ice packs to constrict the blood vessels in my nose and then reduce the production of mucus. Pseudophed and non-rebounding nasal sprays, he also recommneded but I can't take pseudophed because it disrupts my sleep (I take sleep meds for fibromyalgia).

So, I learned a lot that will help me!

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