Light therapy tips for better sleep

Cost Of Lamps??

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Sad Surfer
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Posted by Sad Surfer, 00:13 27 October 2009

Cabbaged
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Posted by Cabbaged, 10:11 27 October 2009

Have to say I'm rather sceptical about the specification, even more so at that price.

My Lumie "Pharos Max" emits 10,000 lux at ~80cm, using six 36watt bulbs. It cost me ~£270 about three years ago. As far as I am aware, it is still one of the most power lightboxes on the market.

The product in your link claims 20,000 lux at 50cm, using just three 11watt bulbs. For £40, this is a "too good to be true" scenario. Personally, I'm not aware of any lightbox capable of 20,000 lux output.

The picture may not be doing the product justice, but the light intensity looks comparable to my Lumie "Brightspark", which sits on my PC desk.
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Posted by BWAD Squirrel, 12:12 27 October 2009

Yep claims sound slightly exaggerated:

The best fluorescent tubes offer luminous efficiencies of around 100 lumens per watt, so 100 lumens per watt x 11 watts x 3 = 3,300 lumens output.

Theorhetically the lightbox could achieve a maximum of 3,300 lux at 1 m or 13,200 lux at 50 cm, assuming the use of high efficiency tubes and that all the light produced is focused on your eyes - which of course it isn't.

In the real world you'd be lucky to achieve 1,500 lux at 50 cm with the lightbox.

20,000 lux is always possible, but in this case you would have to have your nose practically touching the lightbox.
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Posted by paulst, 15:36 27 October 2009

I must admit it does seem a bit dodgy, the price seems very low and 20,000 lux seems very high. All the lightboxes ive seen advertise up to 10,000 lux.
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Posted by COLIN37, 16:55 27 October 2009

Keep trying, there are some good brand name light boxes on ebay at very reasonable prices. I saw a BriteBox (normally £199) in full working order go for £50 last week, just because the finishing time was the middle of a weekday
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Posted by Elettaria, 19:38 27 October 2009

I've seen some cheap LED lightboxes as well, and while they may not have all the bells and whistles, they probably still do the job. I picked up a second-hand Lite-Pad for a tenner to use while I'm quilting and it's fine.

Something I suspect may work nearly as well as a lightbox is to buy a blue LED bulb such as http://ebulbshop.com/acatalog/Blue_LED_Golfball_Bulb_BC.html and sit with it in a lamp just above your eyes. You take in the light most effectively if it's above your eyes, and blue is the wavelength that has the effect. You may need to use it for longer, but it could make a decent stopgap. I have one and tried using it for about half the day, reasoning that it would produce a similar effect at a low level to a lightbox. I turned it off at 4pm, and I had terrible trouble sleeping that night, I was absolutely wired. I've also used it occasionally as a booster when sleepy in the afternoon.

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