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COLIN37
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Posted by COLIN37, 08:12 3 November 2009

I have been reading about wearing amber glasses for and hour or two before going to bed to stimulate melanin production.

The glasses cost around £70 for what appears to be a normal pair of wrap around amber sunglasses.

Dose anyone know more about this subject. Could a person simply buy a pair of the amber or yellow glasses that are used in shooting (military, hunters, competition)and skiing?

From what I understand the glasses just block out the blue light in the spectrum as artificial light has too much of it and it can stop us getting tired at night.

ANy comments greatfully accepted.

Colin
paulst
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Posted by paulst, 16:28 3 November 2009

That sounds like a good idea, I wonder if ordinary sunglasses would work?
COLIN37
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Posted by COLIN37, 18:27 3 November 2009

No from what I understand they have to be amber or yellow lenses to block out the blue light.

It makes sense because the blue SAD lights are said to be good for aliviating SAD by promoting Seratonin and stopping melatonin. So I guess blocking out blue light at night would have the opposite effect.

But as to whether it has to be £70 amber glasses or a cheaper alternative is what I am hoping to find out with this post.
Piers
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Posted by Piers, 14:58 4 November 2009

I have some amber lensed wraparound sunglasses so I can give them a go and see if I notice a difference. From a technical point of view I think as long as blue light is being diminished (perhaps in favour of amber/red like in a sunset?), they should work. Sunglasses of any type would also have the benefit of reducing all types of light at the end of the day which is bound to be helpful too.
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Posted by Piers, 21:49 4 November 2009

Here's an early update. I put my amber sunglasses on around two hours ago (8pm) and have never yawned so often this early in the evening.

So it seems there's a good chance that blocking blue light with amber/brown lenses has a significant effect on melatonin. I will post again tomorrow.
COLIN37
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Posted by COLIN37, 22:23 4 November 2009

very interesting experement Piers. I am seriously thinking of buying sme amber sunglasses because I regularly want to goto bed early but for some reason just never feel like going to bed.

Thanks for taking the time to try it and post.

Colin
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Posted by Piers, 06:59 5 November 2009

The sleepiness continued and I went to bed 2 hours earlier than normal - I got tired of yawning so much. I could easily have gone even earlier.

I really wasn't expecting such an obvious effect and although it was only one night, there was nothing else different in my day that could account for such a dramatic change.

I wouldn't say that my quality of sleep improved though, but maybe that would change over a longer period. Perhaps predictably I woke up 2 hours earlier.

As I was brushing my teeth, looking decidedly silly in my shades, it occurred to me that as more people change to low energy lamps, which tend to produce a bluer light, perhaps there will be an increase in those developing sleep problems. For those that aren't aware, it IS possible to get low energy lamps that are close to the old style light - look for "warm white" or "2700 kelvin".

In conclusion, it seems worth trying a pair of dark glasses in the evening, perhaps an hour before you want to sleep - especially if you spend time near fluorescent lights, watching television or using the computer.

For the record, the glasses I have are Ray-bans with brown/amber glass lenses. I'm inclined think that any brown/amber lensed sunglasses would work though - the wraparound variety is probably better. If you already have normal sunglasses it might be worth trying them to see if the general reduction in light produced an effect.
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Posted by COLIN37, 18:20 6 November 2009

Thanks again Piers. I have a pair of normal prescription sunglasses so I am going to give those a try for a few days. Will post on the results
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Posted by COLIN37, 21:06 8 November 2009

Well, i've been using the sunglasses for a couple of days now and I have felt no effect what so ever. I think I need to get some with lenses that block blue light, like amber or orange. Yellow is also said to be an option.

Lets see.....
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Posted by Piers, 21:27 8 November 2009

Well that knocks the cheaper "use the ones you've got" option on the head! It's good to know though and will help others who may stumble across the thread.

Having looked through yellow lenses a couple of times in the past I think brown/amber would be easier on the eyes. Brown/amber might have a deeper tint and so blocking more overall light. As I mentioned, the effect for me with brown/amber is rapid and dramatic.

I hope you find some reasonably priced ones to try.
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Posted by COLIN37, 21:39 8 November 2009

Its funny you say that because from what I have been reading the yellow lenses only block "a large amount" of blue light but the amber/brown/orAnge ones are supposed to block "almost all" of it.

Reasonably priced is the holy grail :-) The "proper" ones seem to be a fortune. I can get cheaper ones for about £20 though, will give a try. We've got a deep sea fishing shop round the corner, will have a look there during week.
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Posted by Elettaria, 12:20 15 November 2009

Try http://www.optimalowvision.co.uk/department.cfm?ds=optima_content&cfid=435926&cftoken=70332194&dept=20 for a much cheaper place to get blue-blocking glasses. Admittedly I hated the ones I bought (they were £5.50 amber fitovers), they were uncomfortable and made me look ghastly, but there's a big range there. It's easier if you don't have to wear them over prescription specs. I spent a while messing around with yellow light bulbs and an orange filter over the laptop, and then had a pair of prescription glasses made up at the optician with blue-blocking lenses. The optician checked that the tint would completely block blue for me. They're orange, Wratten tint 21, and it's a 50% tint as apparently 40% will completely block all blue. The optician was Optical Express, since they had a nice range of cheap frames that suited me, and it took a bit of faffing and a few phone calls but eventually they were able to source the orange lenses. Other opticians may find it harder or easier to do this. Unless you're getting a second pair of glasses made up free or something, I'd suggest trying out darkness therapy with yellow light bulbs etc. before committing to having glasses made up. https://www.lowbluelights.com/index.asp? is a good source of info on darkness therapy.

My sleep is a lot better, I get sleepier earlier in the evening and am less prone to waking in the night (when my partner gets home late from poker a few nights a week, it no longer wakes me up so thoroughly that I can't get back to sleep, now I just mutter hello and fall asleep again), and my sleeping pattern is also improved. I'm combining this with bright light therapy in the morning (been doing this for 4 1/2 years) and dawn simulation (started that up again the other month), and without all this I have some unholy combination of DSPS and non-24 sleep-wake cycle.

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