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Sunny76
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Posted by Sunny76, 21:56 23 August 2010

Hello folks, having a bad week and desperate to get some advice.

I am 34 and I first noticed this when i was 19. I get a mini-depression when summer ends and the nights draw in. Yes, I feel sad that the summer has passed, but it's much more than that.

I feel hopeless, desperately lonely, the dark weighs me down and makes me feel trapped and closed in, I cry a lot in the evenings and around dusk, often crying the whole 20 minute drive home. I feel so empty inside and so scared, scared of winter and how I will make it through.

The daft thing is I LIKE seasons, I am not at all anti-winter, but this time (UK now) just leaves me so lifeless and unsettled and I cry all the blinkin' time!!!

I have spent time, on and off over the years, reading about S.A.D. but what I've read never seems to correlate with my own symptoms. I would welcome any advice or suggestions at all because I broke down in front of my son today and I really need to find a way of dealing with this better. Many thanks!
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Posted by Bagpuss, 21:45 24 August 2010

Hi Sunny, it sounds a lot like SAD to me. I can really relate to the symptoms you are describing, especially feeling lonely, trapped and closed in. Same as you I like the seasons, I love watching everything change and winter can be very beautiful in it's own bleak way, if it wasn't for the depression I probably wouldn't mind it, but my heart sinks as soon as the autumn leaves appear because I know what's coming. Do you have a light box? I recommend getting one and starting about September when the nights start getting darker. Also I find that a dawn simulator helps me get out of bed in the morning. Exercise also helps me, I usually feel much better afterwards. Hope that helps and you don't feel so alone this winter, now you've joined the forum! :-)
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Posted by Bagpuss, 21:58 24 August 2010

Sunny I forgot to ask, do you only get depressed at the end of summer or all year round? I don't think it's too early to start experiencing a few SAD symptoms, I start to feel a bit low at the end of august too, as the leaves start falling and it starts getting darker earlier. I even get symptoms on overcast days in summer!
Sunny76
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Posted by Sunny76, 23:20 24 August 2010

Hello there! Thanks for your reply. Generally the worst of it is around now. After that it abates (but doesn't leave until spring) and is the same as (I perceive) anyone else's winter blues. Yes it's infinitely harder to do anything in the winter, yes driving to and from work in the dark can make me teary etc, but it can be in waves.

This is always very much non-existent yesterday but then full-on 'it's here!' the next. I find it hard through the winter at 3 or 4pm, it's like an episodic version of what I'm experiencing now. I quite often time making the coffee or popping to the loo with those times to get away from my desk and distract myself! Weekends I don't feel it anywhere near as much because I almost obsessively (yet subconsciously) stay active and get our and about a lot so that I'm not affected by dusk; it helps me avoid that desperation.

Sorry! Waffling now, never really spoken to anyone about this. My nearest and dearest know I go 'funny' about now and that's as far as it's gone :)
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Posted by Bagpuss, 22:26 25 August 2010

It's good to be able to talk about it to someone, but hard for people to understand unless they experience it themselves I think. I'm glad you've found the forum anyway. :-) It does sound a bit like SAD, or winter blues, I guess everyone's experience is a bit different. Have you read Norman Rosenthal's 'Winter Blues' book. I found it very informative and comforting, it might help you to find ways of coping and read up on SAD symptoms.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Winter-Blues-Norman-E-Rosenthal/dp/1593851162/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1282771390&sr=1-1
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Posted by Nurse, 14:37 30 August 2010

Hi Sunny, please go to your GP first to see if you do suffer from SAD. There may be other underlying Mental Health problems.

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Posted by Sunny76, 15:04 30 August 2010

Do you think? I'd be surprised, just because it's the same every year, and has been for 15 yrs. And because I have no faith in my GP whatsoever and generally have to be half-dead for them to take me seriously!! But, I shall try. :-)
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Posted by Donna, 18:56 8 September 2010

I knew I had SAD as my GP didn't believe in SAD so depends on your GP. Generally people know themselves i they have SAD. Lots of people get winter blues which is not as bad as SAD but yes you can always ask to see a different GP. I've suffered from SAD for over 20 years now and was relived when SAD started to be taken seriously about 15 years ago. With SAD people usually know they have it due to the patterns of how they feel each year. Then by the spring, they start to feel normal once again. Good luck and this website is so helpful in many ways :-)

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