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Dyls
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Posted by Dyls, 16:17 3 October 2010

Anyone else tend to find that if you mention SAD to someone (non-sufferer) that they a) have miracle advice and b) suffer from feeling 'a bit low' in winter?

I have had all sorts of advice imparted to me, from exercise through to certain and specific vitamins, and if I say I have tried them I tend to find that the person giving the advice is like a dog with a bone, they refuse to believe that the remedy could fail and that I must have done it (the remedy action) wrong in some way because it worked for them.

I truly want to slap people who say those who say to me 'well we all feel a little low during winter'. An offer to trade places and a promise of huge sums of money if they feel the same way after usually shuts them up.

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Posted by Donna, 18:48 3 October 2010

I totally understand where you are coming from here Dyls. It happens to me alot!
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 22:14 3 October 2010

Yes! the Occupational Health bloke I was referred to by work was the worst. Banged on about hens only laying when they get a particular amount of light, then told me about SAD lamps. WHen I said I had been using one for three years....He decided that there wasn't anything that he could do to improve my situation. By that time I was back at work any way. grrr
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Posted by Donna, 19:30 5 October 2010

Purple, I remember a few years ago a Occupational Health nurse tried telling me that she knew all about sad as she had read a book and tried telling me what I should do.....I just burst into tears! Oh happy days....not!!!
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Posted by flo, 10:58 8 October 2010

people always say they get winter blues, but they have NO IDEA how difficult it is, its like your brain has been taken over by a darkness that you cant shake. its not the same as feeling a bit down or a bit upset. you cant blame people for not understanding, but it is so frustrating!
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Posted by Summer, 19:41 25 October 2010

lol dyls and agree with you 100% flo. :o)

There is a big and I mean BIG difference between full blown SAD and just feeling a 'bit down' 'cos it's dark and a bit cloudy outside. Makes me so angry sometimes when people (mostly well meaning) tell you to 'cheer up' and that they feel the same way too!!

I've had diagnosed SAD since 1994 and have some really good winters and some really awful ones. I have my particular routines that I follow at this time of year to try and hold it back. Sometimes I'm succesful and sometimes not. When I'm not it means 6 months on Prozac which in itself has a number of side effects that I don't like.
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Posted by Loopylou, 13:03 27 October 2010

I couldnt agree with all these posts more! Its a misery that only a small amount of us "really" endure every year those that claim they also feel the same have no clue. Nor do they help by telling us to cheer up or do this or do that, go out with friends etc that will cheer you up- dont they understand you want to shut off from society and pretend the outside world doesnt exsisit so you can just sit in doors in the warm and sleep or eat!
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Posted by Donna, 17:01 28 October 2010

Summer,
Have you thought about trying Citalopram instead of Prozac? I find I don't get any side effects.Hope this helps :)
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 10:59 31 October 2010

Lucky you Donna! I get a lot of side effects with Cit. I suppose it depends on how you react to each drug. Having said that, I'd rather have the physical side effects than be a mess all winter!
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Posted by Donna, 22:32 12 November 2010

Purple, may I ask what side effects you get? I think I must be lucky due to the fact that Citalopram was the first antidepressant I tried. I feel so chilled out on it, I nearly fall over lol! My job can be so stressful I find I can cope better with it (at times!)in the winter due to the Citalopram. Have just raised my dose to 40mg for first time. Hope I don't need more before the end of winter ;)
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Posted by paulst, 10:01 13 November 2010

Ive just started on Citalopram,had to change meds because of severe anxiety.I have been taking them for 12 days,main problems are lack of sleep and the anxiety,which hasnt improved at all. Also my sick note ends on Monday and to be honest Ifeel terrified at the thought of work.
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 17:08 14 November 2010

@ Donna, oh, lots of the things listed, but tummy problems are the worst. Makes me very tired too. I started on 10mg in September and just upped it to 20mg about 2 weeks ago, feeling better now. Will try and take it up again before Christmas.

@Paul, sorry to hear you're so anxious. I know how it feels when you just feel incapable of going into work. It's awful. Any chance you can see the doc and get it extended, doesn't sound like you're fit to be there. I think many of the antidepressant medications take quite a few weeks to become totally effective. Let us know how things go.
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Posted by paulst, 12:39 15 November 2010

Hi, I went to the doctors today. He has given me a sicknote for 2 more weeks and increased my citalopram dosage. Hopefully I will start to feel better soon.
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 22:38 16 November 2010

Give the meds time to work Paul. The best advice the doc gave me, the first time I was signed off sick was to go home, look after myself and just do as much as I felt like. So I did just that, making an appointment with my SAD lamp every day.
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Posted by Patricia, 21:25 3 December 2010

Oh well I'm back like the bad penny I keep turning up.
I was reading this article and thought about how I am doing a course at the moment and have not been able to get there for a couple of days this week, more so since the arrival of the snow.
The tutor phoned me and said she is willing to work with me to pass the course which is nice, the only thing is that she said she understood how I was feeling then went on to say that I should try and get out for a walk as that will make me feel better, doh!!!!, if I could get out for a walk I would be able to get to the course, honestly I know she meant well but honestly, it's getting out that's half the trouble.
I have a lightbox and a clock that starts to light up 45 minutes before I am meant to get up, but because my sleep pattern is so all to pot just now, I am not getting to sleep until about 4/5 in the morning which means when the alarm does go off I don't want to actually get up as I am shattered.
I am seriously beginning to think that I need to visit the doctor which is something I have always tried to put off doing at all as I don't really think pills suit me.
Sorry to ramble and thanks for listening.
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Posted by Scarlett, 12:15 16 December 2010

I've just had people try to cheer me up today - well intentioned but pointless. It's dark as night here in London today in advance of heavy rain. I've had so many comments of "Think of x, y, z happening" but all I want to do is sleep the winter away!

still I do think December is the worst so I am half way there.
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Posted by Patricia, 21:01 16 December 2010

I am the same Scarlett, I wish I could just go to sleep and wake up in January, as I seem to go along getting worse in the lead up to December, as it's my worse month too.
I used to love this time of the year until I developed S.A.D., now how nice it would be to just slip past it.
As you say Scarlett it's nearly over.
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Posted by PurpleIvy, 16:59 17 January 2011

Aaaarrrghhhhh! Rant alert! I'm sick of people telling me they don't like January and the dark mornings when they hear I have SAD. Aaarrrggghh! Rant over. It's safe to come out.

Bring me back as a bear, you can hibernate all winter, have hairy legs, be fat and grouchy!
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Posted by Linda, 18:46 17 January 2011

Couldn't agree more, PurlpleIvy. As soon as you say you have SAD, it's automatically linked with "winter blues". These people actually have no idea. I try to make the distinction between SAD and winter blues as soon as possible in the conversation. If they aren't getting the message, I mention that it has made me feel suicidal at times. That makes most people begin to get some idea.
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Posted by maxak8, 21:03 18 January 2011

Hi to everyone, just read all the comments? on this page and how difficult it can be for people who suffer from SAD and well meaning comments that non believers feel they have to make.And yes they would not like to swap places with us folks who do genuinely suffer from the symptoms of SAD which is different from Depression. For me I took the drastic action of selling my home,car, leaving my daughters and moving abroad as I really would have not survived another winter in the UK and believe you me I have tried everything possible, to no avail. It has been tough over the Christmas period but there seemed no other way to survive, so yea, some people really do not have a clue what it is like to have full blown SAD. Best wishes to everyone, Maxak8
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Posted by debralondon, 23:21 23 August 2011

I can relate to all these messages. When I tell people I have SAD the number of times people say they have it a bit too just makes me mad. If they went through what I do every year they wouldn't be so glib.Last year was my worst every since the first time I was diagnosed and it was touch and go if I would make it frankly. It didn't help that I broke my wrist in a fall in December. This winter is going to be better for sure! Started my light therapy already and taking Citalopram now.

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