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caz1
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Posted by caz1, 14:37 7 December 2005

hi all
i am fairly new and was just wondering if any one could tell me if getting the shakes for no reason was normal. even though i started ads tablets this morning, (tuesday), i have been getting the shakes since sunday so its not connected to the tablets.
thanx caz1
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Posted by JS101, 23:22 7 December 2005

hi caz1

I'm new here, but what you say doesn't sound right. You oughta see your doc about it.

John
gailx
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Posted by gailx, 00:48 8 December 2005

Hi,

About a week ago if that I started to feel worse and worse... the phone just rang with some one asking questions.. I have got the shakes just having to think to answer their questions...

I am not sure if I should go back on the anti d's. I only got off them a year this 1.1.06! I was on a very low dose this time last year and I recall feeling the usual SAD symptoms but this year feels worse this time...

Ive been frying my face with the lamp to make sure im getting enough light...

Anyone else feeling shakey and nervous over nothing?
Cheers
G
caz1
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Posted by caz1, 14:02 8 December 2005

hi gailx
I am getting the shakes everyday, since sunday, normaly lunchtime/afternoon. A couple of times this week i started to feel nervous over nothing, it was strange. I have started to keep a diary because I could see a pattern forming,with times of day with the shakes and headache so i thaught i would keep a record and then look back say after a week, plus i thaught it would be usefull to show my doctor. I went to my daughters x-mas play this morning, i didnt want to go but i knew i had to. and i was surprised i was ok once i was in there, although couldnt wait to get out.
caz1
gailx
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Posted by gailx, 14:51 8 December 2005

HI Caz1,

YEs I had to do two meetings yesterday, I felt really crap and nervous but I went and I was ok, at times by the second meeting as it was after a long day, I felt worse and had to fight to stay there.

I am going the Docs to day to see if he thinks I should go back on anti ds or not... I know they make you much better and this will go away... however I also hate that addiction you get, as I go nuts at the end of each month when they start to run out and panic whatever on getting the next batch in... ARRRH!

Thanks Caz and do keep trying to do the stuff you dont like, as it keeps you in control!

Love Gail
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Posted by Linda, 17:54 8 December 2005

If I can just jump in here, these kinds of symptoms are unfortunately familiar to me too.
I guess it's a matter of how much you're willing to tolerate before you decide that you simply have to be on the ADs. I think I tolerated far too much actually, and my family and friends suffered as well as me.
I had a lot of experiences where I was indoors someplace and thought, "I just have to get out of here. NOW." It could just as easily be in places that I'd normally find pleasurable, like indoor play areas or a dark indoors amusement park ride. It's particularly hard when that happens on a plane.
I am a little claustrophobic as it is, don't like crowds or dark enclosed places, but these kinds of reactions aren't normal for me, and they're troublesome. Fortunately, since I've been on the meds, they've been a thing of the past.
I guess all I can say is just take care of yourselves guys, whatever that involves. Please don't let yourselves get too ill.
Linda.
caz1
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Posted by caz1, 18:35 8 December 2005

hi,

Yesterday we had a christmas party at one of our toddler groups and I go every week, but yeaterday I hated it as there was loads of people there I have never seen. I seem to go funny around strangers, where I didnt before. Toddlers was so busy I sat out by my self most of the time, my friends noticed straight away that something was wrong. Even though I stayed till the end, I very nearly left because I could feel my self building up to cry, I could also feel my self building up anger inside, very strange feelings. With my daughters christmas play today I was ok once I was there, and I was fine. couldnt wait to get out but I was fine. Nothing compared to yesterday.
I used to party plan, well I still do. I have been putting my parties of since September, with excuse after excuse to my boss. I didnt know why I didnt want to go, all I knew was that when a party was near, like that night, I would start to get angry inside, and generaly didnt want to go. Just wanted to stay at home and have my own company. I do think my boss must of noticed something was not right as I put so many parties off. I have not told her yet as I have been putting of telling her. Im gonna pluck up the courage tonight and ring her and say I cant do it any more. Such a big difference from being able to stand in front of loads of ladies to not being able to go at all.
My family are suffering big time at the moment, cant handle my own kids. And hate my husband. The light box couldnt come sooner for me, as desperate to change.
Any way I am going on abit so I will go now,
thanx caz1
fernando
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Posted by fernando, 18:45 8 December 2005

Hi,

I'm very shakey at the mo, I think it is down to anxiety. I'm going to ask my doc for some beta blockers or to go back on ADs.

Shaking is a symptom of anxiety, and anxiety goes hand on hand with depression.

Baths, with essential oils help me,

I think i'm getting a massage for christmas.
caz1
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Posted by caz1, 20:35 8 December 2005

fernando
OILS, now thats a good idea, hadnt thaught of using them. I will buy some next time I go shopping. Good luck with your massage, hope you get it.
caz1
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Posted by paulst, 20:55 8 December 2005

I dont think ive had the shakes, but I cant stop yawning sometimes, I have found citalopram very good, but it did take a couple of weeks before I started to feel better :) paul
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Posted by fernando, 21:25 8 December 2005

Hi Caz

I'm taking this from 'The Fragrant Pharmacy', by Valerie Ann Worwood,

oils good for mental and emotional stress:

Lavender
Geranium
Sandalwood
Basil
Bergamot
Thyme
Cardamom
Patchouli

I personally use Chamomile Roman, lavender and Pettigrain to knock me off to sleep, as they are relaxants.

Lavender is handy for everything and is one of the cheapest and widely avaliable.

Hope this helps

xx
JS101
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Posted by JS101, 23:16 8 December 2005

I hope I didn't worry you Caz, but I thought you meant shakes as in fitting, when you mentioned that it couldn't have been caused by your meds. I was thinking back to my run in with some ADs that caused me to violently fit.

My hands shake a little when I am anxious this time of year. A friend recently pointed it out when I was pouring some wine during a dinner party on Saturday. They thought that I had been drinking already, but I hadn't even touched a drop for a few weeks. I didn't even notice the shaking until it was mentioned, because I was preoccupied with just feeling anxious.

Your not alone in the SAD shakes department.

Happy thoughts

John
caz1
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Posted by caz1, 00:26 9 December 2005

JS101

thats ok JS101. when I shake its my whole body, like as if I was cold, but im not. I do feel it more in my hands and I do feel nervous inside at the same time, but when this happens it is for no reason, well no reason that im aware off. I feel ok tonight, well apart from when my mouse wouldnt work, I got so stressed that I nearly threw it accross the room. It turned out to be the batteries,

Fernando,
thanks for the list of oils, i do have some lavender, relaxing bath=here we come.

thanx caz1
gailx
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Posted by gailx, 03:08 10 December 2005

HI All,

thanks so much for the feedback, it makes me feel much better knowing its sad symptoms....

I went to my docs and hes put me back on anti d's however the worst time is going on them, so ive opened them up and im going on them the same way I got off them, one mg at a time! (Stop laughing.. its having a placebo effect on me too...) Actually I felt the buring and live wire sensations it gave me last time but much milder and 'able to cope.'

Yesterday I was thinking i would be happy to go to work... I had to go as I cover for someone that is off, otherwise I am based at home at the moment... When today came I was so so so worried and fully anxious over travelling and dealing with a bunch of customers.... and people..

I did relaxation tapes for like two hours.... I thought of doing it like baby steps.. 1. Just get there... 2. tell the other staff I didnt feel well.. (not the reason just felt sick...) 3. I can leave at any point... but ill try a few mins dealing with ppl..

Anyways after getting there too early and burning with anxiety to the point of darn determination to stay.... I stayed and kept telling myself five more mins...

Then once id nearly finished the work there was the drive home in the dark... which again HAD turned into a issuee.... which id never had before?

Well I ended up staying longer and talking to the customers having a giggle with some of the ppl there.. When I got into my car I was extatic, (sorry about spelling) but overjoyed that I had done it! And there was no feelings of worry about driving home.. it was normal.. relaxed.

It would have been a very very very bad thing if id bailed out and ran home, like the start of my world falling apart.. (we dont put much pressure on do we..)

So what I want to tell you all.... Is try the babysteps and all the way along, whatever your fear is, you still are in control as you can turn around and go back at any point.... and just to highlight so no one, (in cluding me) gets upset at only doing part of it.... or not ready to face it.. you will when you are ready and feeling stronger, and if you chose to face your fear, and you only do a bit of it... you did a bit of it and next time you can do more!

Also I have bought this very very expensive CD from www.changethatsrightnow.com It was about £100.00. Its about NPL (OR NLP) mind programming and making you do visualizations about things, your fears, stuff you are angry over.... And it teaches you how to do 'anchoring' which seems to work as I used it at work when I got all freaked out and wanted to bolt... Then there is this technique called time line thearpy and its visualization again but looking at things like you'd see a scene on TV but its 'you' Eg if you are angry over something that happened a long time ago, (they say usually before 7yrs old) and that kick started something in you..

Then you use these techniques to apply to things you have phobias about, whether is spiders, shops, outside, inside... etc....

To sum it all up, I feel a zillion times better, (I say as i sit in the warmth of my home!)

If anyone wants me to do a full hit write up on the anchoring techniques and the time line therapy I will, just ask one here and ill gladly do my best.. or if you have the cash, I would say buy it.... It comes very very highly recommended.. I have called up a few 'Paul McKenna Trained' therapists but one wanted £350.00 for a one off cure all... and I am afraid I just thought YEP! If I got paul mckenna for £350.00 (minus the film crew...lol) I would have gladly paid it...

Another simple tip it teaches is 'interupting' a panic attack or a state of mind... Eg when I was itching to bolt at work today, I was sat on my own festering and fighting my fears... waiting for the customers to turn up.. as they arrived, I got worse.... so I got up and went over to have a chat.... at first I found it difficult, but I carried on and then your mind engages in the chat and the fear starts to decrease...


So im going to do lots and lots of these meditation / visualiztion CDs and not worry about what I cant do right now... and in a few weeks tackly one of my worries.. which I hope has become not a worry as Im de stressed!

HAs anyone else tried NPL (or NLP) therapists or techinques..?

Thanks again all, Love Gail
caz1
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Posted by caz1, 16:37 11 December 2005

hi all


I just wanted to say "hello", and ask how every one is feeling. I slept today till 1.30 which is when my husband phoned me up from work and asked me if I wanted to go out for a pub lunch. I said yes because I know I would normaly enjoy it. I was feeling a bit funny about it but i got my self sorted out and went any way. I had a nice lunch and the kids played on the slides etc.I was fine but after I had eaten I felt the shakes coming on and since I have been home the shakes have got worse. MY hands feel it more but I cant stop shaking. It is a weird feeling and very uncomfortable. I was wondering does any one know if there is anything to take that stops the shakes.
Any suggestions would be great, I will try anything,
thanx caz1
gailx
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Posted by gailx, 23:20 12 December 2005

HI Caz1

My shakes are more internal if you know what I mean, a symptom of anxiety I think.

Its good to hear you went out and had a nice time! As for sleeping late, thats normal for a saddie! FOr me its all about acceptance as I used to get so upset and when I was about 25+ when it first started I used to go nuts and cry.

I have bought more relaxation tapes and having a big ME time till after christmas when I hope I feel better to tackle bigger anxiety ridden situations!

Keep intouch, love Gailx

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